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From: Jim on 2 Aug 2010 10:53 On 02/08/10 15:43, CT wrote: > What happens is commercial TV churns out hour after hour of populist > shite[1] and the BBC do the same in search of ratings, so can spend > less money on programming and more on "talent" and executives. > > What should happen is that the BBC largely ignores what the commercial > sector does, and produces good quality programming that wouldn't be a > twinkle in the eye of the commercial stations. The trouble is that if they don't get the audiences it would become very difficult to justify continued funding: I guess the only thing to do is to balance output between some cheap populist rubbish and some quality programmes. I think they get it about right to be honest.
From: Hog on 2 Aug 2010 11:00 steve auvache wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:36:05 +0100, "Hog" > <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Jim wrote: >>> On 02/08/10 14:18, Hog wrote: >>>>> Maybe it's similarly OK to nick the products which pay for >>>>> commercial free-to-air TV channels through advertising...? >>>> >>>> What I said was; socially and economically it is a bad system. >>> >>> Would you prefer the BBC to be funded via general taxation or by >>> advertising revenue? >> >> The Beeb licencing nazis assume every home in the UK has a TV and >> targets all those who do not register so add it to the Council >> Charge perhaps. That then exempts those people who get CC relief. > > So that is general taxation then, your only quibble would seem to be > which particular hook they use to get the cash out of your trouser > pocket. I'm finding it very hard to be in the liberal position here y'know -- Hog
From: Adrian on 2 Aug 2010 11:01 "CT" <me(a)christrollen.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> Yes, ok, we all know Our BBC is outstanding but there is a knock on >> effect which you lot tend to forget, it brings the commercial stations >> screaming and kicking along with them. The very fact they have a >> commercial competitor with product as good as the Beeb forces them to >> raise their game. Which means we get quality and then some and all for >> the same payment. > Absolute bollocks. > > What happens is commercial TV churns out hour after hour of populist > shite[1] and the BBC do the same in search of ratings, so can spend less > money on programming and more on "talent" and executives. You haven't watched much TV outside the UK, have you?
From: Krusty on 2 Aug 2010 11:02 ogden wrote: > Krusty wrote: > > ogden wrote: > > > > > > And if the government stabbed you in the face with a pastry fork > > > and said everyone with a face had to pay 15 quid a year for it, I > > > bet you'd be livid. > > > > I'd rather be stabbed in the face with a pastry fork[1] than watch > > much of the shite churned out on BBC these days. > > So what? Their mandate is to provide programming for the entire > spectrum of licence fee payers, not just yokels in Swindon. Which is obviously impossible, so they just show stuff that can compete in the ratings instead. > > [1] Whatever the hell one of those is. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_fork > > Peasant. People use a fork for eating cakes?!? Poofs. -- Krusty Raptor 1000 MV 750 Senna Tiger 955i Tiger 885 Fantic Hiro 250
From: ogden on 2 Aug 2010 11:06
Krusty wrote: > ogden wrote: > > > Krusty wrote: > > > ogden wrote: > > > > > > > > And if the government stabbed you in the face with a pastry fork > > > > and said everyone with a face had to pay 15 quid a year for it, I > > > > bet you'd be livid. > > > > > > I'd rather be stabbed in the face with a pastry fork[1] than watch > > > much of the shite churned out on BBC these days. > > > > So what? Their mandate is to provide programming for the entire > > spectrum of licence fee payers, not just yokels in Swindon. > > Which is obviously impossible, so they just show stuff that can compete > in the ratings instead. Yeah, I watched Synth Britannia last night and it was so blatantly competing in the ratings with Ant & Dec. And as for that documentary about camping, if that wasn't their answer to Hollyoaks I don't know what is. -- ogden | gsxr1000 | ktm duke ii |