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From: Champ on 2 Aug 2010 17:22 On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:00:26 +0100, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: >> I shall definitely be heading to the Crusty Pie Co.[1] stand at the >> GBBF at some point on Thursday evening. Some might even make the whole >> journey home... >I'll be trying to learn from past mistakes and not buying half a ton of >scratchings. I suspect that you're nearly as bad as me in the "learning from past mistakes" department. -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: petrolcan on 2 Aug 2010 17:33 In article <MPG.26c0fbf6f5bfa2e398a5a7(a)news.eternal-september.org>, ogden says... > > CT wrote: > > Champ wrote: > > > On 2 Aug 2010 14:45:53 GMT, "CT" <me(a)christrollen.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Champ aside, who wouldn't like pastry? Life would hardly be worth > > > > living without pies... > > > > > > ...and you're living proof of that. > > > > Indeed. I like pies. > > > > I shall definitely be heading to the Crusty Pie Co.[1] stand at the > > GBBF at some point on Thursday evening. Some might even make the whole > > journey home... > > I'll be trying to learn from past mistakes and not buying half a ton of > scratchings. Don't forget the pickled egg.
From: Kevin Gleeson on 2 Aug 2010 17:44 On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:27:53 +0100, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:39:29 GMT, Kevin Gleeson ><kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: > >>>>Is it something to do with your insane TV licensing laws? >>> >>>Care to explain what's insane about it? >> >>I can't imagine why you would be charged to own a receiver. A >>transmitter, yes. If the service provider is happy to transmit it >>uncoded then having a receiver and having to have a licence for it >>seems stupid. If I head back to the UK with a USB stick, why should I >>have to pay? If it is cable pay to air, fine. If you want that >>service, then pay for it. > >Look, it's quite simple - it costs money to make and broadcast >television programmes. There are two ways to raise that money: >- advertising >- subscription (BBC, many satelite & cable channels e.g. HBO) > >The BBC has been around since the dawn of broadcasting, where, in the >UK, owning a set capable of recieving broadcasts was a reasonable >'token' for whether you should pay for them or not. Nowadays all the >cable/satellite guys use encryption, but that wasn't possible back in >the analogue broadcast days. > >Given that the BBC has, and still does, produce some of the best TV in >the world, it's a charging model I'm happy to support. > >>Most of the time I think they should be paying _us_ to watch >>television. I can't think of any other reason for doing it. > >That's easy then - if you don't own a reciever, you don't have to pay. I get free TV here called the ABC. Yes, we pay for it in taxes, no advertising. But having to licence the receiver is crazy I reckon. -- Kev
From: Champ on 2 Aug 2010 18:09 On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:44:06 GMT, Kevin Gleeson <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:27:53 +0100, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >>>Most of the time I think they should be paying _us_ to watch >>>television. I can't think of any other reason for doing it. >>That's easy then - if you don't own a reciever, you don't have to pay. >I get free TV here called the ABC. Yes, we pay for it in taxes, no >advertising. But having to licence the receiver is crazy I reckon. So, in your system, even people who don't own a television pay for ABC. And you think our system is crazy! -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: ogden on 2 Aug 2010 19:20
Champ wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:00:26 +0100, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: > > >> I shall definitely be heading to the Crusty Pie Co.[1] stand at the > >> GBBF at some point on Thursday evening. Some might even make the whole > >> journey home... > > >I'll be trying to learn from past mistakes and not buying half a ton of > >scratchings. > > I suspect that you're nearly as bad as me in the "learning from past > mistakes" department. I mostly learn how to do them better. -- ogden | gsxr1000 | ktm duke ii |