From: steve auvache on
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:36:05 +0100, "Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

>Jim wrote:
>> On 02/08/10 14:18, Hog wrote:
>>>> Maybe it's similarly OK to nick the products which pay for
>>>> commercial free-to-air TV channels through advertising...?
>>>
>>> What I said was; socially and economically it is a bad system.
>>
>> Would you prefer the BBC to be funded via general taxation or by
>> advertising revenue?
>
>The Beeb licencing nazis assume every home in the UK has a TV and targets
>all those who do not register so add it to the Council Charge perhaps. That
>then exempts those people who get CC relief.

So that is general taxation then, your only quibble would seem to be which
particular hook they use to get the cash out of your trouser pocket.
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steve auvache
From: ginge on
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:23:25 +0000 (UTC), "Krusty"
<dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>No, they're being forced to pay for a service they may not want just
>because they've got a TV.

We're not the only country that has a TV licence, France, Germany,
Italy, the Swiss, all the old communists, and even the Scandamanavians
do. Some of them pay much more than we do too.

Want a TV, pay a licence fee. Get the BBC as part of the deal.. seems
fair to me.

From: ginge on
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 15:25:28 +0100, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote:

>And if the government stabbed you in the face with a pastry fork and
>said everyone with a face had to pay 15 quid a year for it, I bet you'd
>be livid.

That should be free. Especially when people don't like pastry.
From: CT on
steve auvache wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 13:27:53 +0100, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
> > Given that the BBC has, and still does, produce some of the best TV
> > in the world, it's a charging model I'm happy to support.
>
>
> Yes, ok, we all know Our BBC is outstanding but there is a knock on
> effect which you lot tend to forget, it brings the commercial
> stations screaming and kicking along with them. The very fact they
> have a commercial competitor with product as good as the Beeb forces
> them to raise their game. Which means we get quality and then some
> and all for the same payment.

Absolute bollocks.

What happens is commercial TV churns out hour after hour of populist
shite[1] and the BBC do the same in search of ratings, so can spend
less money on programming and more on "talent" and executives.

What should happen is that the BBC largely ignores what the commercial
sector does, and produces good quality programming that wouldn't be a
twinkle in the eye of the commercial stations.

[1] the never ending series of "pop/stage/cookery talent" shows, etc

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Chris
From: CT on
ginge wrote:

> That should be free. Especially when people don't like pastry.

Champ aside, who wouldn't like pastry? Life would hardly be worth
living without pies...

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Chris
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