Cager F.U of the day kills two
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From: J. Clarke on 13 Jul 2010 17:10 On 7/13/2010 4:22 PM, BrianNZ wrote: > J. Clarke wrote: >> On 7/9/2010 8:15 AM, Ben Kaufman wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 00:55:07 -0700 (PDT), Twibil<nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Jul 7, 6:44 pm, Ben Kaufman<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000- >>>> doll...(a)pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> In other words: Was he out running his sight distance? >>>>> >>>>> We don't know. >>>> >>>> Yes we do. >>>> >>>> He hit her. >>> >>> Until further information about this accident is available , we don't >>> know the >>> reason why he hit her. >> >> Either he meant to hit her or he screwed up. There's no third option. >> > > > Mechanical failure? Act of God? :) What kind of mechanical failure on a bike takes out both the steering and the brakes? And how is rearending somebody an "act of God"?
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 13 Jul 2010 17:50 On Jul 13, 1:07 pm, "Bob Myers" <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote: > Ben Kaufman wrote: > > Let's say that a rider wants to stay with good practices. Initially, > > the visibility distance is good at 55mph and is suddenly reduced by > > blinding sun glare to (say) 20mph. One cannot instantaneously reduce > > the speed of their bike from 55mph to 20mph, it is a physical > > impossibility. Even the fastest possible deceleration would be an > > unwise thing to do if there are cars behind you. > > Yeah, I just hate it when the sun jumps right into your line of sight > like that. The one real case that does come to mind is Tule fog in the central valley. They've been known to have fifty car pileups when drivers go ripping into a patch of fog at 80 mph, only to find there's a pileup in the middle of it. I try real hard to avoid foggy conditions in the valley for just that reason. If I'm worried, I'll normally slow down and tuck in behind a truck, figuring he's pretty visible and I'd rather have him be the first to encounter the carnage. There was a rider killed several years ago while stopped on the shoulder at the scene of an accident in the fog when a woman tried to drive around the wreckage on the shoulder of the road. That one, I really don't think was easily avoidable by the rider.
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 13 Jul 2010 17:55 On Jul 13, 1:10 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > And how is rearending somebody an "act of God"? If you'd read any mythology, you'd know it happened pretty regularly. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090113091325AA1vMox
From: BrianNZ on 13 Jul 2010 17:56 J. Clarke wrote: > On 7/13/2010 4:22 PM, BrianNZ wrote: >> J. Clarke wrote: >>> On 7/9/2010 8:15 AM, Ben Kaufman wrote: >>>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 00:55:07 -0700 (PDT), Twibil<nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Jul 7, 6:44 pm, Ben Kaufman<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000- >>>>> doll...(a)pobox.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words: Was he out running his sight distance? >>>>>> >>>>>> We don't know. >>>>> >>>>> Yes we do. >>>>> >>>>> He hit her. >>>> >>>> Until further information about this accident is available , we don't >>>> know the >>>> reason why he hit her. >>> >>> Either he meant to hit her or he screwed up. There's no third option. >>> >> >> >> Mechanical failure? Act of God? :) > > What kind of mechanical failure on a bike takes out both the steering > and the brakes? Rearending someone. :) Since we are well into what if world here, a caliper snapped off from a faulty casting and went into the front wheel? A sudden flat tyre....might not 'take it out' but it would increase stopping distance? > And how is rearending somebody an "act of God"? > He (She/It) may have been speaking to the rider at the time, distracting them? A blinding revelation?
From: Twibil on 13 Jul 2010 19:57
On Jul 13, 2:55 pm, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > And how is rear-ending somebody an "act of God"? > > If you'd read any mythology, you'd know it happened > pretty regularly. > > http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090113091325AA1vMox You mean to say that Leda's swan was a back-door man?! I lends a whole new meaning to the phrase "giving someone the bird". |