Cager F.U of the day kills two
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From: J. Clarke on 14 Jul 2010 08:59 On 7/14/2010 8:09 AM, Ben Kaufman wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:07:36 -0600, "Bob Myers"<nospamplease(a)address.invalid> > wrote: > >> Ben Kaufman wrote: >>> Let's say that a rider wants to stay with good practices. Initially, >>> the visibility distance is good at 55mph and is suddenly reduced by >>> blinding sun glare to (say) 20mph. One cannot instantaneously reduce >>> the speed of their bike from 55mph to 20mph, it is a physical >>> impossibility. Even the fastest possible deceleration would be an >>> unwise thing to do if there are cars behind you. >> >> Yeah, I just hate it when the sun jumps right into your line of sight >> like that. >> >> Bob M. >> > > You must drive on some boring roads. :-) The road in question was a "boring road". These people weren't canyon-carving, they were riding down a four-lane.
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 14 Jul 2010 10:29 On Jul 14, 4:26 am, Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000- doll...(a)pobox.com> wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:50:29 -0700 (PDT), Rob Kleinschmidt > >I try real hard to avoid foggy conditions in the valley for > >just that reason. If I'm worried, I'll normally slow down > >and tuck in behind a truck, figuring he's pretty visible > >and I'd rather have him be the first to encounter the carnage. > > This sounds like you are not maintaining your sight distance. > You are "tucking in" which implies following closely and relying upon the > truck, who may very well be driving beyond his sight distance. Actually, I'm relying on being able to panic stop as fast as the truck and figuring that if there's something in the road ahead, the truck is either going to stop in time or clear a path. May not be true if the obstacle is another truck. As I said, Tule fog is one and only case I can think of where riding to a sight distance may be impossible. The best response of course is to get the hell off the road at the next exit and don't ride in it. As a general rule, when I can't see where I'm going I'll try to hole up until I can.
From: Bob Myers on 14 Jul 2010 12:18 Ben Kaufman wrote: >> Yeah, I just hate it when the sun jumps right into your line of sight >> like that. >> >> Bob M. >> > > You must drive on some boring roads. :-) Oh, I drive - and ride - on some roads where the sun can be expected to be in and out of your sight. But it's that "expected" that's the key here. If you are even slightly aware of your current situation, you should be aware that there's going to be the potential for being dazzled by the sun intermittently in such places/times, and ride accordingly. There should never be a case of "Geeze, where did that big bright light come from?" Bob M.
From: MikeWhy on 15 Jul 2010 01:10 don (Calgary) wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:34:22 -0400, Futility Man <null(a)futile.org> > wrote: > >> >> I might swerve my car to miss a grown duck, but only because it >> would damage the air dam. For baby ducks, they don't have a chance. >> In my truck, the big duck gets it too. > > Totally off this topic but I was having a beer with a riding bud the > other evening. He works as a safety guy for one of the major oil > companies. He told us a story about how they use remote control boats > to keep the geese and other birds from landing in their settling > ponds. Well one mother goose, trying to protect he goslings(?) from > the boat, attacked it and sank the damn thing. So don't underestimate > determined water fowl. ;-) I'm like the delinquent safety crew, 30 days late and a few dollars short. The boat is a too little, too late. Where were they when the geese were nesting, procreating, and incubating? The locals here thrash the brush along the lake edge, and when they find them, pop the eggs in their nest before they hatch. That puts a quick end to the goose problem. > > I don't know how big those boats are but I thought this was hilarious > and suggested we should draft the mother goose into the Canadian Navy. > She might be one of our more effective weapons. Possibly. It appears more effective leadership might forestall at least some of the problems.
From: MikeWhy on 15 Jul 2010 01:22
BrianNZ wrote: > J. Clarke wrote: >> On 7/9/2010 8:15 AM, Ben Kaufman wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 00:55:07 -0700 (PDT), >>> Twibil<nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Jul 7, 6:44 pm, Ben Kaufman<spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000- >>>> doll...(a)pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> In other words: Was he out running his sight distance? >>>>> >>>>> We don't know. >>>> >>>> Yes we do. >>>> >>>> He hit her. >>> >>> Until further information about this accident is available , we >>> don't know the >>> reason why he hit her. >> >> Either he meant to hit her or he screwed up. There's no third >> option. >> > > > Mechanical failure? Act of God? :) Chronic bad maintenance; chronic bad karma. |