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From: Bob Nixon on 23 Jan 2010 16:23 On Jan 23, 12:19 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 22, 8:04 pm, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote > > [ Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often > > [ exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's > > [ one of the worst racist's himself. I have defended Crusty on several > > [ occasions but it was more about his vast knowledge base that Twible > > [ just doesn't have himself being little more than a retired music > > [ teacher. His math, electronic and mechanical understanding is nil. > > > Twibil is a retired music teacher? I didn't know that. > > That's just Bob's try at a put-down because he thinks college > instructors are automatically stupid. > > In fact, I've been a professional musician/luthier (as in making a > good living at it) for 46 years now, and show no signs of retiring, > but I also taught music at the University of California (Riverside) > for years and years. > > As for engineering prowess, I'd love to see our hero try to design and > build a musical instrument from the ground up. I could use a good > laugh. > > Herewith a Strad repro guitar I built about 20 years ago.http://web.archive.org/web/20020620141931/chordacopia.com/images/inst... You're right in saying I couldn't do this and I'll have to give you a heads up for actually posting a photo from your life experiences. Bob..
From: Tim M. on 23 Jan 2010 17:53 On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 23, 11:18 am, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 22, 10:03 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 22, 6:43 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:52 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often > > > > > exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's > > > > > one of the worst racist's himself. > > > > > Really, liar? Well then, Booby, er, Bobby, you'll have to explain > > > > exactly which race -or races- I'm prejudiced against. > > > > > Go for it! *Please*! > > > > > (This ought to be *really* good!) > > > > Racism=bigotry & you are one of the worst bigots frequenting these > > > groups. > > > > Bob Nixon.. > > > That's quite a charge, Bob. Do you have ANYTHING to back it up, or is > > it just another of your uncalled-for, scurrilous, personal attacks, > > like the ones you launch against me about every 3-4 months? > > There's surely a lot of history on AMS which (thankfully) I'm not > aware of and I've had my run-ins with Bob too, over the years. But > isn't calling him a racist (just because he sides with Krusty's > mechanical advice on occasion) just a bit over-the-top? > > That would be like me thinking you're a bigot because of who you side > with on this issue now. People and issues don't pan out that simply > and, for those who need to reduce everything to someone's race, > religion or motorcycle, it's not a good indicator. All part-and- > parcel of the same failing that seeks to distill complex issues into > simple categories, IMO. > > But usenet is what it is, isn't it? It's a bit like we're all forced > to experience Asperger's Syndrome here. People who suffer from that > can hear and understand the words being spoken, but they're > compromised socially by the fact they cannot interpret facial > expressions for context; that last thing being so essential. > > Likewise, since a word-only environment like this is bound to result > in more misunderstandings, perhaps it behoves participants to give > others a little more benefit of the doubt than they feel obliged to in > real life exchanges. Unfortunately, however, it seems more often the > reverse of that. It's like, going on partial evidence, people take a > great deal more confidence in the conclusions they draw, instead of > less. > > At the risk of relying on simplistic categories myself, perhaps people > basically fall into two, main grouping: There are those who think > people can never change (so they will never forgive) and those who > think people can change (so they have to remain open to that > possibility). I'd like to think people can change and that, if their > behaviour improves, you should welcome them back into the fold (even > in cases as bad as Krusty). > > Unfortunately, the ability to change can also mean that some people > slowly become worse over the years (I can think of one or two like > that) - which might mean they should think about focusing more of > their time on easier-to-handle, real life relationships if they're not > doing well at the online stuff. Can't find a single thing in what you said to disagree with, so in usenet context, I think that qualifies as a wasted post! ;-) Tim P.S. I didn't call Bob a racist, and I don't think he is one.
From: saddlebag on 23 Jan 2010 19:06 On Jan 23, 5:53 pm, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 23, 11:18 am, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 22, 10:03 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 22, 6:43 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:52 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often > > > > > > exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's > > > > > > one of the worst racist's himself. > > > > > > Really, liar? Well then, Booby, er, Bobby, you'll have to explain > > > > > exactly which race -or races- I'm prejudiced against. > > > > > > Go for it! *Please*! > > > > > > (This ought to be *really* good!) > > > > > Racism=bigotry & you are one of the worst bigots frequenting these > > > > groups. > > > > > Bob Nixon.. > > > > That's quite a charge, Bob. Do you have ANYTHING to back it up, or is > > > it just another of your uncalled-for, scurrilous, personal attacks, > > > like the ones you launch against me about every 3-4 months? > > > There's surely a lot of history on AMS which (thankfully) I'm not > > aware of and I've had my run-ins with Bob too, over the years. But > > isn't calling him a racist (just because he sides with Krusty's > > mechanical advice on occasion) just a bit over-the-top? > > > That would be like me thinking you're a bigot because of who you side > > with on this issue now. People and issues don't pan out that simply > > and, for those who need to reduce everything to someone's race, > > religion or motorcycle, it's not a good indicator. All part-and- > > parcel of the same failing that seeks to distill complex issues into > > simple categories, IMO. > > > But usenet is what it is, isn't it? It's a bit like we're all forced > > to experience Asperger's Syndrome here. People who suffer from that > > can hear and understand the words being spoken, but they're > > compromised socially by the fact they cannot interpret facial > > expressions for context; that last thing being so essential. > > > Likewise, since a word-only environment like this is bound to result > > in more misunderstandings, perhaps it behoves participants to give > > others a little more benefit of the doubt than they feel obliged to in > > real life exchanges. Unfortunately, however, it seems more often the > > reverse of that. It's like, going on partial evidence, people take a > > great deal more confidence in the conclusions they draw, instead of > > less. > > > At the risk of relying on simplistic categories myself, perhaps people > > basically fall into two, main grouping: There are those who think > > people can never change (so they will never forgive) and those who > > think people can change (so they have to remain open to that > > possibility). I'd like to think people can change and that, if their > > behaviour improves, you should welcome them back into the fold (even > > in cases as bad as Krusty). > > > Unfortunately, the ability to change can also mean that some people > > slowly become worse over the years (I can think of one or two like > > that) - which might mean they should think about focusing more of > > their time on easier-to-handle, real life relationships if they're not > > doing well at the online stuff. > > Can't find a single thing in what you said to disagree with, so in > usenet context, I think that qualifies as a wasted post! > > ;-) Tim > > P.S. I didn't call Bob a racist, and I don't think he is one. As far as I know, you and Pete are the only two racists here. You racist in Virginia and he in California. As I recall, you won a trophy.
From: Tim M. on 23 Jan 2010 22:21 On Jan 23, 7:06 pm, saddlebag <saddle...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Jan 23, 5:53 pm, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 23, 11:18 am, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 22, 10:03 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 22, 6:43 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:52 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often > > > > > > > exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's > > > > > > > one of the worst racist's himself. > > > > > > > Really, liar? Well then, Booby, er, Bobby, you'll have to explain > > > > > > exactly which race -or races- I'm prejudiced against. > > > > > > > Go for it! *Please*! > > > > > > > (This ought to be *really* good!) > > > > > > Racism=bigotry & you are one of the worst bigots frequenting these > > > > > groups. > > > > > > Bob Nixon.. > > > > > That's quite a charge, Bob. Do you have ANYTHING to back it up, or is > > > > it just another of your uncalled-for, scurrilous, personal attacks, > > > > like the ones you launch against me about every 3-4 months? > > > > There's surely a lot of history on AMS which (thankfully) I'm not > > > aware of and I've had my run-ins with Bob too, over the years. But > > > isn't calling him a racist (just because he sides with Krusty's > > > mechanical advice on occasion) just a bit over-the-top? > > > > That would be like me thinking you're a bigot because of who you side > > > with on this issue now. People and issues don't pan out that simply > > > and, for those who need to reduce everything to someone's race, > > > religion or motorcycle, it's not a good indicator. All part-and- > > > parcel of the same failing that seeks to distill complex issues into > > > simple categories, IMO. > > > > But usenet is what it is, isn't it? It's a bit like we're all forced > > > to experience Asperger's Syndrome here. People who suffer from that > > > can hear and understand the words being spoken, but they're > > > compromised socially by the fact they cannot interpret facial > > > expressions for context; that last thing being so essential. > > > > Likewise, since a word-only environment like this is bound to result > > > in more misunderstandings, perhaps it behoves participants to give > > > others a little more benefit of the doubt than they feel obliged to in > > > real life exchanges. Unfortunately, however, it seems more often the > > > reverse of that. It's like, going on partial evidence, people take a > > > great deal more confidence in the conclusions they draw, instead of > > > less. > > > > At the risk of relying on simplistic categories myself, perhaps people > > > basically fall into two, main grouping: There are those who think > > > people can never change (so they will never forgive) and those who > > > think people can change (so they have to remain open to that > > > possibility). I'd like to think people can change and that, if their > > > behaviour improves, you should welcome them back into the fold (even > > > in cases as bad as Krusty). > > > > Unfortunately, the ability to change can also mean that some people > > > slowly become worse over the years (I can think of one or two like > > > that) - which might mean they should think about focusing more of > > > their time on easier-to-handle, real life relationships if they're not > > > doing well at the online stuff. > > > Can't find a single thing in what you said to disagree with, so in > > usenet context, I think that qualifies as a wasted post! > > > ;-) Tim > > > P.S. I didn't call Bob a racist, and I don't think he is one. > > As far as I know, you and Pete are the only two racists here. You > racist in Virginia and he in California. As I recall, you won a > trophy. Step away from the Scotch bottle, Bags.... slowly, now. That's right....
From: Vito on 24 Jan 2010 09:56
"Twibil" <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > Was it you posting the anti-hispanic rants a while back or someone else? I > forget. [ I grew up next door to -and best-friends with- the Mercado family: Does this mean the answer to my question is "no"? Sorry - it was somebody from up your way. |