From: Bob Nixon on
On Jan 23, 12:19 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 8:04 pm, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote
> > [ Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often
> > [ exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's
> > [ one of the worst racist's himself. I have defended Crusty on several
> > [ occasions but it was more about his vast knowledge base that Twible
> > [ just doesn't have himself being little more than a retired music
> > [ teacher. His math, electronic and mechanical understanding is nil.
>
> > Twibil is a retired music teacher?  I didn't know that.
>
> That's just Bob's try at a put-down because he thinks college
> instructors are automatically stupid.
>
> In fact, I've been a professional musician/luthier (as in making a
> good living at it) for 46 years now, and show no signs of retiring,
> but I also taught music at the University of California (Riverside)
> for years and years.
>
> As for engineering prowess, I'd love to see our hero try to design and
> build a musical instrument from the ground up. I could use a good
> laugh.
>
> Herewith a Strad repro guitar I built about 20 years ago.http://web.archive.org/web/20020620141931/chordacopia.com/images/inst...

You're right in saying I couldn't do this and I'll have to give you a
heads up for actually posting a photo from your life experiences.

Bob..
From: Tim M. on
On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 23, 11:18 am, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 22, 10:03 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 22, 6:43 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 22, 2:52 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often
> > > > > exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's
> > > > > one of the worst racist's himself.
>
> > > > Really, liar? Well then, Booby, er, Bobby, you'll have to explain
> > > > exactly which race -or races- I'm prejudiced against.
>
> > > > Go for it!  *Please*!
>
> > > > (This ought to be *really* good!)
>
> > > Racism=bigotry & you are one of the worst bigots frequenting these
> > > groups.
>
> > > Bob Nixon..
>
> > That's quite a charge, Bob.  Do you have ANYTHING to back it up, or is
> > it just another of your uncalled-for, scurrilous, personal attacks,
> > like the ones you launch against me about every 3-4 months?
>
> There's surely a lot of history on AMS which (thankfully) I'm not
> aware of and I've had my run-ins with Bob too, over the years.  But
> isn't calling him a racist (just because he sides with Krusty's
> mechanical advice on occasion) just a bit over-the-top?
>
> That would be like me thinking you're a bigot because of who you side
> with on this issue now.  People and issues don't pan out that simply
> and, for those who need to reduce everything to someone's race,
> religion or motorcycle, it's not a good indicator.  All part-and-
> parcel of the same failing that seeks to distill complex issues into
> simple categories, IMO.
>
> But usenet is what it is, isn't it?  It's a bit like we're all forced
> to experience Asperger's Syndrome here.  People who suffer from that
> can hear and understand the words being spoken, but they're
> compromised socially by the fact they cannot interpret facial
> expressions for context; that last thing being so essential.
>
> Likewise, since a word-only environment like this is bound to result
> in more misunderstandings, perhaps it behoves participants to give
> others a little more benefit of the doubt than they feel obliged to in
> real life exchanges.  Unfortunately, however, it seems more often the
> reverse of that.  It's like, going on partial evidence, people take a
> great deal more confidence in the conclusions they draw, instead of
> less.
>
> At the risk of relying on simplistic categories myself, perhaps people
> basically fall into two, main grouping:  There are those who think
> people can never change (so they will never forgive) and those who
> think people can change (so they have to remain open to that
> possibility).  I'd like to think people can change and that, if their
> behaviour improves, you should welcome them back into the fold (even
> in cases as bad as Krusty).
>
> Unfortunately, the ability to change can also mean that some people
> slowly become worse over the years (I can think of one or two like
> that) - which might mean they should think about focusing more of
> their time on easier-to-handle, real life relationships if they're not
> doing well at the online stuff.

Can't find a single thing in what you said to disagree with, so in
usenet context, I think that qualifies as a wasted post!

;-) Tim

P.S. I didn't call Bob a racist, and I don't think he is one.
From: saddlebag on
On Jan 23, 5:53 pm, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 11:18 am, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 22, 10:03 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 22, 6:43 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 22, 2:52 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often
> > > > > > exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's
> > > > > > one of the worst racist's himself.
>
> > > > > Really, liar? Well then, Booby, er, Bobby, you'll have to explain
> > > > > exactly which race -or races- I'm prejudiced against.
>
> > > > > Go for it!  *Please*!
>
> > > > > (This ought to be *really* good!)
>
> > > > Racism=bigotry & you are one of the worst bigots frequenting these
> > > > groups.
>
> > > > Bob Nixon..
>
> > > That's quite a charge, Bob.  Do you have ANYTHING to back it up, or is
> > > it just another of your uncalled-for, scurrilous, personal attacks,
> > > like the ones you launch against me about every 3-4 months?
>
> > There's surely a lot of history on AMS which (thankfully) I'm not
> > aware of and I've had my run-ins with Bob too, over the years.  But
> > isn't calling him a racist (just because he sides with Krusty's
> > mechanical advice on occasion) just a bit over-the-top?
>
> > That would be like me thinking you're a bigot because of who you side
> > with on this issue now.  People and issues don't pan out that simply
> > and, for those who need to reduce everything to someone's race,
> > religion or motorcycle, it's not a good indicator.  All part-and-
> > parcel of the same failing that seeks to distill complex issues into
> > simple categories, IMO.
>
> > But usenet is what it is, isn't it?  It's a bit like we're all forced
> > to experience Asperger's Syndrome here.  People who suffer from that
> > can hear and understand the words being spoken, but they're
> > compromised socially by the fact they cannot interpret facial
> > expressions for context; that last thing being so essential.
>
> > Likewise, since a word-only environment like this is bound to result
> > in more misunderstandings, perhaps it behoves participants to give
> > others a little more benefit of the doubt than they feel obliged to in
> > real life exchanges.  Unfortunately, however, it seems more often the
> > reverse of that.  It's like, going on partial evidence, people take a
> > great deal more confidence in the conclusions they draw, instead of
> > less.
>
> > At the risk of relying on simplistic categories myself, perhaps people
> > basically fall into two, main grouping:  There are those who think
> > people can never change (so they will never forgive) and those who
> > think people can change (so they have to remain open to that
> > possibility).  I'd like to think people can change and that, if their
> > behaviour improves, you should welcome them back into the fold (even
> > in cases as bad as Krusty).
>
> > Unfortunately, the ability to change can also mean that some people
> > slowly become worse over the years (I can think of one or two like
> > that) - which might mean they should think about focusing more of
> > their time on easier-to-handle, real life relationships if they're not
> > doing well at the online stuff.
>
> Can't find a single thing in what you said to disagree with, so in
> usenet context, I think that qualifies as a wasted post!
>
> ;-) Tim
>
> P.S. I didn't call Bob a racist, and I don't think he is one.

As far as I know, you and Pete are the only two racists here. You
racist in Virginia and he in California. As I recall, you won a
trophy.

From: Tim M. on
On Jan 23, 7:06 pm, saddlebag <saddle...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 23, 5:53 pm, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 2:54 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 23, 11:18 am, "Tim M." <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 22, 10:03 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 22, 6:43 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:52 pm, Bob Nixon <bigrex2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Don, I don't know how I got on Peter's racist list but he's often
> > > > > > > exhibited old age self hatred to the point he doesn't even know he's
> > > > > > > one of the worst racist's himself.
>
> > > > > > Really, liar? Well then, Booby, er, Bobby, you'll have to explain
> > > > > > exactly which race -or races- I'm prejudiced against.
>
> > > > > > Go for it!  *Please*!
>
> > > > > > (This ought to be *really* good!)
>
> > > > > Racism=bigotry & you are one of the worst bigots frequenting these
> > > > > groups.
>
> > > > > Bob Nixon..
>
> > > > That's quite a charge, Bob.  Do you have ANYTHING to back it up, or is
> > > > it just another of your uncalled-for, scurrilous, personal attacks,
> > > > like the ones you launch against me about every 3-4 months?
>
> > > There's surely a lot of history on AMS which (thankfully) I'm not
> > > aware of and I've had my run-ins with Bob too, over the years.  But
> > > isn't calling him a racist (just because he sides with Krusty's
> > > mechanical advice on occasion) just a bit over-the-top?
>
> > > That would be like me thinking you're a bigot because of who you side
> > > with on this issue now.  People and issues don't pan out that simply
> > > and, for those who need to reduce everything to someone's race,
> > > religion or motorcycle, it's not a good indicator.  All part-and-
> > > parcel of the same failing that seeks to distill complex issues into
> > > simple categories, IMO.
>
> > > But usenet is what it is, isn't it?  It's a bit like we're all forced
> > > to experience Asperger's Syndrome here.  People who suffer from that
> > > can hear and understand the words being spoken, but they're
> > > compromised socially by the fact they cannot interpret facial
> > > expressions for context; that last thing being so essential.
>
> > > Likewise, since a word-only environment like this is bound to result
> > > in more misunderstandings, perhaps it behoves participants to give
> > > others a little more benefit of the doubt than they feel obliged to in
> > > real life exchanges.  Unfortunately, however, it seems more often the
> > > reverse of that.  It's like, going on partial evidence, people take a
> > > great deal more confidence in the conclusions they draw, instead of
> > > less.
>
> > > At the risk of relying on simplistic categories myself, perhaps people
> > > basically fall into two, main grouping:  There are those who think
> > > people can never change (so they will never forgive) and those who
> > > think people can change (so they have to remain open to that
> > > possibility).  I'd like to think people can change and that, if their
> > > behaviour improves, you should welcome them back into the fold (even
> > > in cases as bad as Krusty).
>
> > > Unfortunately, the ability to change can also mean that some people
> > > slowly become worse over the years (I can think of one or two like
> > > that) - which might mean they should think about focusing more of
> > > their time on easier-to-handle, real life relationships if they're not
> > > doing well at the online stuff.
>
> > Can't find a single thing in what you said to disagree with, so in
> > usenet context, I think that qualifies as a wasted post!
>
> > ;-) Tim
>
> > P.S. I didn't call Bob a racist, and I don't think he is one.
>
> As far as I know, you and Pete are the only two racists here.  You
> racist in Virginia and he in California.  As I recall, you won a
> trophy.

Step away from the Scotch bottle, Bags.... slowly, now. That's
right....
From: Vito on
"Twibil" <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote
"Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> Was it you posting the anti-hispanic rants a while back or someone else? I
> forget.

[ I grew up next door to -and best-friends with- the Mercado family:

Does this mean the answer to my question is "no"? Sorry - it was somebody
from up your way.


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