From: des hanging around for a while on
On 2010-04-14, Hog <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Krusty wrote:
>
>>> No, but there would be if they knew they'd suffer the same fate
>>> after a few weeks tops.
>>>
>>
>> Don't think that's a sustainable model. Supply far outstrips the
>> capacity to incarcerate. Maybe.
>
> Incinerate? ashes take up so little space and make a good fertiliser

Heh .. you _are_ a psycopath.
From: Derek Turner on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:37:42 +0100, TMack wrote:


> The "Land of the Free" has the highest imprisonment rate in the world.
> The United States has less than 5% of the world's population but it has
> over 23% of the world's prison population. The prison population in the
> US exceeds the total population of many small countries such as Gambia,
> Estonia or Mauritius. The money involved in running prisons in the US
> exceeds the entire GDP of many countries. Somehow I don't think
> importing US ideas on imprisonment would be a very wise move.

Interesting. Which led me to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration#Incarceration_rates_by_country

Jersey has a population of 80,000 400 of whom are locked up. At 500 per
100,000 that puts us just behind Russia and well above South Africa. Hmmm.
From: Switters on
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:59:06 GMT, steve auvache wrote:

> In article <Xns9D5A9595CF1Eswittersnospam(a)81.169.183.62>, Switters
> <me(a)privacy.net> writes
>>On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:26:27 GMT, steve robinson wrote:
>>
>>>> OK, here's one: why do you have CCTV in the first place?
>>>
>>> I used to spend long periods away from home and the alarm systems and
>>> cctv made my wife feel safer .
>>
>>A friend at work installed CCTV after some problems with yoofs, now he's
>>absolutely paranoid and checking the footage all the time. He worries
>>about anyone coming down the drive, especially if he's not in.
>
> It does your head right in all this psychological trauma stuff, a lot
> more than you might think.

I was young when I was burgled and didn't have much in the way of
sentimental stuff, so didn't really have anything to get over.

However, I've seen the effect it's had on others, so understand completely
where you're coming from.
From: Thomas on
On Apr 14, 3:30 am, "Krusty" <dontwant...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> Catman wrote:
> > Krusty wrote:
> > > Catman wrote:
>
> > > > Possibly 'better the devil you know' and there's not exactly a
> > > > shortage of supply of up and coming talent, I am given to
> > > > understand.
>
> > > No, but there would be if they knew they'd suffer the same fate
> > > after a few weeks tops.
>
> > Don't think that's a sustainable model. Supply far outstrips the
> > capacity to incarcerate. Maybe.
>
> Yeah that's the problem - don't incarcerate. Send them off for a few
> years hard labour instead. Something like digging wells & building
> schools in Africa.

Send 'em to Oz.


From: Thomas on
On Apr 14, 2:29 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Catman <cat...(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Thomas wrote:
> >> There are 2 arguments why not to do it. The first is money. It's very
> >> expensive to lock people up.
>
> > He's looking for arguments against capital punishment ITYF...
>
> Ding
>
> Not for a first offence I add, for the 4th.

That's another problem. Death row is far more expensive than regular
prison and because of all the automatic appeals, prisoners now spend
an average of 11 years there before execution. (1/3 die of natural
causes.) Also, the death penalty is not fool-proof. 252 convicts, and
at least 17 on death row have been exonerated after conviction.


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