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From: Lozzo on 14 Apr 2010 15:50 steve robinson wrote: > A freind of mine spent 18 months in colchester army nick when he was > 21 . He didn't. Any offence that requires a soldier to be banged up in the glasshouse for more then 3 months is automatically dealt with in a civilian jail. There's a special unit at MCTC Colchester that houses prisoners who are to be transferred to civvie nicks. DAMHIKT, IJDOK. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
From: Thomas on 14 Apr 2010 21:48 On Apr 14, 10:12 am, des hanging around for a while <d...(a)des.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-14, Thomas <keens...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 14, 2:29 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Catman <cat...(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: > >> > Thomas wrote: > >> >> There are 2 arguments why not to do it. The first is money. It's very > >> >> expensive to lock people up. > > >> > He's looking for arguments against capital punishment ITYF... > > >> Ding > > >> Not for a first offence I add, for the 4th. > > > That's another problem. Death row is far more expensive than regular > > prison and because of all the automatic appeals, prisoners now spend > > an average of 11 years there before execution. (1/3 die of natural > > causes.) Also, the death penalty is not fool-proof. 252 convicts, and > > at least 17 on death row have been exonerated after conviction. > > 135 actually, 'last time I looked. I got my data from the Innocence Project. I've seen a lot of bogus numbers, and there may be other organizations doing the same thing, but the IP is pretty reliable. http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/351.php
From: Thomas on 14 Apr 2010 21:52 On Apr 14, 10:12 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > Thomas <keens...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2:29 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >> Catman <cat...(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: > >>> Thomas wrote: > >>>> There are 2 arguments why not to do it. The first is money. It's > >>>> very expensive to lock people up. > > >>> He's looking for arguments against capital punishment ITYF... > > >> Ding > > >> Not for a first offence I add, for the 4th. > > > That's another problem. Death row is far more expensive than regular > > prison and because of all the automatic appeals, prisoners now spend > > an average of 11 years there before execution. (1/3 die of natural > > causes.) Also, the death penalty is not fool-proof. 252 convicts, and > > at least 17 on death row have been exonerated after conviction. > > It doesn't have to be expensive, the Yanks only choose to make it so. Oh yeah. But considering that so many have been wrongly sent to death row, I'm more in favor of life without parole than the death penalty. It's tough to reconcile executing an innocent person.
From: Hog on 15 Apr 2010 02:56 Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 14, 10:12 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> It doesn't have to be expensive, the Yanks only choose to make it so. > > Oh yeah. But considering that so many have been wrongly sent to death > row, I'm more in favor of life without parole than the death penalty. > It's tough to reconcile executing an innocent person. I think a post sentence review panel would work. A trial concludes on the balance of evidence and "reasonable doubt". A death sentence can be handed down. A review panel can then decide if the combined evidence was absolute or contained doubt. If not absolute then suspend unless reviewed on new evidence. Chances of executing the innocent under an arrangement like that is very slight. -- Hog
From: crn on 15 Apr 2010 05:16
Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh yeah. But considering that so many have been wrongly sent to death > row, I'm more in favor of life without parole than the death penalty. > It's tough to reconcile executing an innocent person. Why ?. Are we running out of scrotes ?. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project 68 Bantam D14/4 Sport (Classic) 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley) |