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From: Hog on 14 Apr 2010 13:12 Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 14, 2:29 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> Catman <cat...(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >>> Thomas wrote: >>>> There are 2 arguments why not to do it. The first is money. It's >>>> very expensive to lock people up. >> >>> He's looking for arguments against capital punishment ITYF... >> >> Ding >> >> Not for a first offence I add, for the 4th. > > That's another problem. Death row is far more expensive than regular > prison and because of all the automatic appeals, prisoners now spend > an average of 11 years there before execution. (1/3 die of natural > causes.) Also, the death penalty is not fool-proof. 252 convicts, and > at least 17 on death row have been exonerated after conviction. It doesn't have to be expensive, the Yanks only choose to make it so. And frankly if you get fitted up 4 times you are so unlucky you were going to die in a headline grabbing freak accident anyway. -- Hog
From: des hanging around for a while on 14 Apr 2010 13:12 On 2010-04-14, Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 14, 2:29 am, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> Catman <cat...(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >> > Thomas wrote: >> >> There are 2 arguments why not to do it. The first is money. It's very >> >> expensive to lock people up. >> >> > He's looking for arguments against capital punishment ITYF... >> >> Ding >> >> Not for a first offence I add, for the 4th. > > That's another problem. Death row is far more expensive than regular > prison and because of all the automatic appeals, prisoners now spend > an average of 11 years there before execution. (1/3 die of natural > causes.) Also, the death penalty is not fool-proof. 252 convicts, and > at least 17 on death row have been exonerated after conviction. 135 actually, 'last time I looked.
From: Catman on 14 Apr 2010 13:37 boots wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:41:59 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Fr Jack > says: > >> "Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> banged this out on the bongos: >> >>> Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> Krusty wrote: >>>>> No, but there would be if they knew they'd suffer the same fate >>>>> after a few weeks tops. >>>>> >>>> Don't think that's a sustainable model. Supply far outstrips the >>>> capacity to incarcerate. Maybe. >>> Incinerate? ashes take up so little space and make a good fertiliser >> Even less space after useful viable organs are removed for transplant. > > Although a fairly spiffing idea and one I believe the Chinese are > guilty off[1]. I am not sure people with a drug habit would make ideal > donors given their propensity to be suffering from disease[2]. > > [1] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article745119.ece > [2] http://www.drugabuse.gov/Nida_Notes/NNVol14N2/tearoff.html > ICBW but don't most dealers not actually have a habit? -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: Tim on 14 Apr 2010 13:47 In message <hq4uft$fin$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> writes >boots wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:41:59 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Fr Jack >> says: >> >>> "Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> banged this out on the bongos: >>> >>>> Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> Krusty wrote: >>>>>> No, but there would be if they knew they'd suffer the same fate >>>>>> after a few weeks tops. >>>>>> >>>>> Don't think that's a sustainable model. Supply far outstrips the >>>>> capacity to incarcerate. Maybe. >>>> Incinerate? ashes take up so little space and make a good fertiliser >>> Even less space after useful viable organs are removed for transplant. >> Although a fairly spiffing idea and one I believe the Chinese are >> guilty off[1]. I am not sure people with a drug habit would make ideal >> donors given their propensity to be suffering from disease[2]. >> [1] >>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article745119.ece >> [2] http://www.drugabuse.gov/Nida_Notes/NNVol14N2/tearoff.html >> > >ICBW but don't most dealers not actually have a habit? > Only those who like nun's gear. -- Tim
From: Catman on 14 Apr 2010 14:18
boots wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:37:01 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Catman says: > >> boots wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:41:59 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Fr Jack >>> says: >>>>>> Don't think that's a sustainable model. Supply far outstrips the >>>>>> capacity to incarcerate. Maybe. >>>>> Incinerate? ashes take up so little space and make a good fertiliser >>>> Even less space after useful viable organs are removed for transplant. >>> Although a fairly spiffing idea and one I believe the Chinese are >>> guilty off[1]. I am not sure people with a drug habit would make ideal >>> donors given their propensity to be suffering from disease[2]. >>> >>> [1] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article745119.ece >>> [2] http://www.drugabuse.gov/Nida_Notes/NNVol14N2/tearoff.html >>> >> ICBW but don't most dealers not actually have a habit? > > Higher up the food chain for sure yes. IIRC some organisations have > been known to punish members who use drugs, however, most street > dealers[1] are addicts financing their addiction by selling drugs. > > [1] Who are the ones most often arrested. > I see. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |