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From: Hog on 27 May 2010 08:45 doetnietcomputeren wrote: > On 2010-05-27 12:44:46 +0200, "Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> > said: >> >> There is another angle, most of what high bandwidth connections >> might get used for is probably dodgy anyway. > > So, to use Ginge's analogy, you don't expect the UK govt to maintain > and improve roads, including building new roads, because some people > drive 'dodgy' cars (be that stolen, uninsured, unroadworthy, > unlicensed, whatever)? > > Oh and yet again, you're focussing on the UK. > > Here in NL, the act dowloading anything other that software is > entirely legal. Lets go back to my basic reservations. People pay (say) �300/y for a "24meg superfast bells and whistles" connection. So for a comparable size leased internet connection BT will charge you something like �24,000/y Obviously something gives somewhere, yes? and the answers are QoS and contention. It would be *much* better if the UK concentrated on providing a high quality (with SLA) service of (ok I submit) 5Mbps at an affordable price rather than silly claims that deliver rubbish. And upload speeds more comparable to download speeds. Also, at that rating the UK can reasonably expect to run the national backbone networks and international connections free of congestion. We just cannot provide a true 24meg service to everyone for �25. In the office here Zen provide me with a reliable 5Mbps down and 0.75Mbps up. The latter limits me but the former does ok and I download a fair bit of Very Large File stuff in the evenings. So if I could be provided with 5 down and 2.5+ up at an (effectively) uncontended rate with QoS SLA for the same money in future I'd be ever so pleased. And if a similar QoS for 24 down and 12 up was available for �50-100 I'd snap it up. I'm sure all countries have to struggle with the same facts of life. -- Hog
From: darsy on 27 May 2010 09:08 On Thu, 27 May 2010 13:45:00 +0100, Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >darsy wrote: >> On Thu, 27 May 2010 12:40:09 +0100, Catman >> <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> darsy wrote: >>>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 11:57:08 +0100, Catman >>>> <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> [Blake's 7] >>>>> I do have it all downloaded as DVD rips in .avi that I can stick on disc >>>>> for you if you wish. >>>> that would be fantastic. >>> I shall see what can be done. You around over the long weekend? >> >> for some of it, yeah. No rush though. >> > >K > >I have to go kitchen hunting. I'll get it burnt and if I'm down that >way, I'll stick it through your door. or just bung it in the post. -- d.
From: Catman on 27 May 2010 09:14 CT wrote: > Catman wrote: > >> I have to go kitchen hunting. I'll get it burnt and if I'm down that >> way, I'll stick it through your door. > > *Don't* use Kitchens Direct. Just don't. > Really? I have a man to fit it already, so I'm just looking for units. We'll *probably* be moving next year, so top quality is not quite as important as good price. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: Catman on 27 May 2010 09:15 darsy wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2010 13:45:00 +0100, Catman > <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: > >> darsy wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 12:40:09 +0100, Catman >>> <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> darsy wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 27 May 2010 11:57:08 +0100, Catman >>>>> <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [Blake's 7] >>>>>> I do have it all downloaded as DVD rips in .avi that I can stick on disc >>>>>> for you if you wish. >>>>> that would be fantastic. >>>> I shall see what can be done. You around over the long weekend? >>> for some of it, yeah. No rush though. >>> >> K >> >> I have to go kitchen hunting. I'll get it burnt and if I'm down that >> way, I'll stick it through your door. > > or just bung it in the post. Post? How quaint. I promise not to lower the tone of the area ;) -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: CT on 27 May 2010 09:24
Catman wrote: > CT wrote: > > > > *Don't* use Kitchens Direct. Just don't. > > > > Really? I have a man to fit it already, so I'm just looking for > units. We'll probably be moving next year, so top quality is not > quite as important as good price. Well, I didn't use them myself, but only because of several horror stories from friends and FoFs. If they're only doing the supplying, it might be different kettle of haddock though. -- Chris |