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From: Leszek Karlik on 17 Jan 2010 19:08 On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:13:57 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote: [climate change denier] > I don't say that I am one, by the way (I'm firmly in the "GAF" camp). I > just dislike the lazy use of emotive language to attempt to stifle > discussion. People who don't use emotive language concede the public debate to people who do. That's why you get "pro-choice" and "pro-life" in abortion debates. Basically, if you're trying to convince the general public, not using emotive language is akin to taking a sword to a gunfight. Yeah, maybe a sabre is an elegant weapon for a more civilised age, but you're going to get shot. :-) The majority of people use predominantly emotional heuristics to make decisions, sometimes with a thin veneer of rational thought. Not that it is a bad thing, emotional heuristics are rather good. But you have to take that into account when dealing with humans. -- Leszek 'Leslie' Karlik NTV 650
From: Simian on 17 Jan 2010 19:43 geoff wrote: > > The 'mini ice age' was not a global phenomenon, i.e. it was local > > cooling more akin to the recent couple of cold winters we've had > > where changes in the distribution of heat occur, rather than in the > > amount. > > > Wasn't it caused by Toba erupting or something ? Wasn't Toba in the last _actual_ ice age? Last I heard, the whole period from 1350-1850 was punctuated by harsher winters in the northern hemisphere. One of the problems with calling it an ice age is that global temperatures were only 0.2C lower (on average over the whole period), than the previous 500 years (which included the 'medieval warm period'), despite parts of the world being 2C lower (on average) for years at a time. 0.2C is well within normal global variation in an interglacial era.
From: Richard Smith on 17 Jan 2010 21:17 "Richard Smith" <monotreme(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:xSH4n.27617$Ym4.18375(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > > "Wicked Uncle Nigel" <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message > news:Eorfpo0OlvULJANF(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk... >> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Richard Smith >> <monotreme(a)blueyonder.co.uk> typed >>> >>>"ogden" <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote in message >>>news:MPG.25bc7fb7cffc3ee1989e18(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> Last I read, and the situation may have improved, they had one of three >>>> runways working but no radar so pilots were landing through the night >>>> on >>>> visual. Nuff respect if it's true. >>> >>>Night VFR? My mum could do that. >> >> Not in the UK, she couldn't. Night flight in the UK is always IFR. > > Not nowadays, sonny. Anyway, she had an IMC rating as well. > > Ah, here it is. I should be able to dig out her logbook if necessary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_flight_in_the_UK
From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on 18 Jan 2010 02:48 Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Richard Smith <monotreme(a)blueyonder.co.uk> typed > >"Richard Smith" <monotreme(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message >news:xSH4n.27617$Ym4.18375(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >> >> "Wicked Uncle Nigel" <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message >>news:Eorfpo0OlvULJANF(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk... >>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Richard Smith >>><monotreme(a)blueyonder.co.uk> typed >>>> >>>>"ogden" <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote in message >>>>news:MPG.25bc7fb7cffc3ee1989e18(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> >>>>> Last I read, and the situation may have improved, they had one of three >>>>> runways working but no radar so pilots were landing through the >>>>>night on >>>>> visual. Nuff respect if it's true. >>>> >>>>Night VFR? My mum could do that. >>> >>> Not in the UK, she couldn't. Night flight in the UK is always IFR. >> >> Not nowadays, sonny. Anyway, she had an IMC rating as well. >> >> > >Ah, here it is. I should be able to dig out her logbook if necessary. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_flight_in_the_UK That says that flight is in VMC under IFR. Which is what I was saying, isn't it? -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" "Environmentally, it is our duty to re-use our plastic bags. To suffocate our children" - Frankie Boyle.
From: Champ on 18 Jan 2010 06:29
On 18 Jan 2010 10:59:55 GMT, "CT" <me(a)christrollen.co.uk> wrote: >I've found some of the reporting to be a bit voyeuristic. Christ yes - I've avoided the TV news coverage completely, and even the R4 stuff can be a bit much. -- Champ We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk |