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From: Simian on 17 Jan 2010 14:28 Mick Whittingham wrote: > > If you take into account the 25 'major' volcanos erupting at any one > time[1], The human race puts out as much carbon dioxide in three days as all forms of volcanism do in a year. [snip] > humans probably account for less than 10%[4] of green house > gasses. [snip] > 4/ 10% is a guess I'm not getting into the "48% is not 50% so you are > wrong" thing. It's roughly 5% at the moment. Which is apparently enough to double CO2 concentrations in a century.
From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on 17 Jan 2010 15:13 Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pete Fisher <Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> typed >In communiqu� <KzJsP8+GO2ULJA8a(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>, Wicked Uncle >Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom >>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Salad Dodger >><salad.dodger(a)idnet.com> typed >>>On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:37:46 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>>>And, not matter how bad global warming is, it won't wipe out humanity. >>>>And, something like 99.9% of species that have ever existed are >>>>extinct, so I don't know why we think we're so special. >>> >>>Pretty much my take on it. >>> >>>The media alweays seem to bang on about two groups wrt "climate >>>change" : accepeters and deniers (or the "faithful" and the "heretics" >>>- if you believe the shite some folk write) >> >>I dislike intensely the use of the phrase "climate change denier". >>It's very clearly a crass attempt to make the link to holocaust-denial. >> > >OK, how about "climate change sceptic". Better. I don't say that I am one, by the way (I'm firmly in the "GAF" camp). I just dislike the lazy use of emotive language to attempt to stifle discussion. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" "Environmentally, it is our duty to re-use our plastic bags. To suffocate our children" - Frankie Boyle.
From: Mick Whittingham on 17 Jan 2010 15:22 In article <5dydncUTfIp_-c7WnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, Simian <Simian(a)in_valid.semi-evolved.org> writes >Mick Whittingham wrote: > >> >> If you take into account the 25 'major' volcanos erupting at any one >> time[1], > >The human race puts out as much carbon dioxide in three days as all >forms of volcanism do in a year. But what about all the other gasses they put out? That's volcanos not humans. > >[snip] > >> humans probably account for less than 10%[4] of green house >> gasses. > >[snip] > >> 4/ 10% is a guess I'm not getting into the "48% is not 50% so you are >> wrong" thing. > > >It's roughly 5% at the moment. Which is apparently enough to double CO2 >concentrations in a century. > > > In a century, natural shifts in the earths climate will produce more worrying gas inputs than that. A bit of a mini ice age and we will have increases in the submerged CO2 gas deposits and a decrease from the permafrost. A bit of a warm up and they will decrease but the gasses locked in the permafrost will make up for it. -- Mick Whittingham 'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.' William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
From: Pete Fisher on 17 Jan 2010 15:24 In communiqu� <LMZcA4BF+2ULJA$X(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>, Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom >Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pete Fisher ><Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> typed >>In communiqu� <KzJsP8+GO2ULJA8a(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk>, Wicked >>Uncle Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> cast forth these pearls of >>wisdom >>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Salad Dodger >>><salad.dodger(a)idnet.com> typed >>>>On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:37:46 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>>And, not matter how bad global warming is, it won't wipe out humanity. >>>>>And, something like 99.9% of species that have ever existed are >>>>>extinct, so I don't know why we think we're so special. >>>> >>>>Pretty much my take on it. >>>> >>>>The media alweays seem to bang on about two groups wrt "climate >>>>change" : accepeters and deniers (or the "faithful" and the "heretics" >>>>- if you believe the shite some folk write) >>> >>>I dislike intensely the use of the phrase "climate change denier". >>>It's very clearly a crass attempt to make the link to holocaust-denial. >>> >> >>OK, how about "climate change sceptic". > >Better. > >I don't say that I am one, by the way (I'm firmly in the "GAF" camp). I >just dislike the lazy use of emotive language to attempt to stifle >discussion. > Or even provoke it here ;-) -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk | | Voxan Roadster Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: Mick Whittingham on 17 Jan 2010 15:29
In article <5fSdna04ypuYz87WnZ2dnUVZ8hidnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, Simian <Simian(a)in_valid.semi-evolved.org> writes >Mick Whittingham wrote: > >> Milankovitch's cycles is what most Climate Change and >> Global Warming 'doom and gloom' merchants forget. >> > >Jesus H. Christ. Yes? > >No, they don't. A leading Doom and Gloomer on a TV discussion since Xmas[1], didn't even know who Milankovitch was. Made me laugh. So you are agreeing with me? We are going through a predictable climate change with only a minor[2] deviation due to humans. [1] No I can't remember what programme. [2]For minor read a few hundred years for a major change in climate. -- Mick Whittingham 'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.' William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2. |