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From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on 17 Jan 2010 06:49 Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Richard Smith <monotreme(a)blueyonder.co.uk> typed > >"ogden" <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote in message >news:MPG.25bc7fb7cffc3ee1989e18(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> Last I read, and the situation may have improved, they had one of three >> runways working but no radar so pilots were landing through the night on >> visual. Nuff respect if it's true. > >Night VFR? My mum could do that. Not in the UK, she couldn't. Night flight in the UK is always IFR. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" "Environmentally, it is our duty to re-use our plastic bags. To suffocate our children" - Frankie Boyle.
From: Beav on 17 Jan 2010 07:20 "Colin Irvine" <look(a)bottom.of.home.page> wrote in message news:jeq5l591m59v44s46fpu56esvmoa7n6rnf(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:26:23 +0000, Kim Bolton squeezed out the > following: > >> >>Sean Hamerton wrote: >> >>> >>>I bet there are ecomentalists out there intent on convincing people >>>the earthquake was linked to Climate Change(tm), previously marketed >>>as Global Warming(tm). >>> >>>On that note, has anyone else seen the ad doing the rounds at the >>>moment that really smacks of propoganda: >>> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62gsctP2gc >> >>oops... >> >>World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown >> >>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece > > It seems to me that too many people confuse two completely separate > issues - the speed with which the world is warming as a result of the > natural cycle of events on the one hand, and the extent to which > mankind is affecting both the speed and the final outcome of the cycle > on the other. Both are carelessly described as Climate Change and > Global Warming. And there are studies that say the earth is actually cooling down and there's no evidence of any temperature rise over the last 100 years. Yer pays yer money...... -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > > -- > Colin Irvine > ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 > http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
From: Beav on 17 Jan 2010 07:31 "Wicked Uncle Nigel" <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in message news:Eorfpo0OlvULJANF(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk... > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Richard Smith > <monotreme(a)blueyonder.co.uk> typed >> >>"ogden" <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote in message >>news:MPG.25bc7fb7cffc3ee1989e18(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> Last I read, and the situation may have improved, they had one of three >>> runways working but no radar so pilots were landing through the night on >>> visual. Nuff respect if it's true. >> >>Night VFR? My mum could do that. > > Not in the UK, she couldn't. Night flight in the UK is always IFR. Are you sure about that WUN? -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
From: Mick Whittingham on 17 Jan 2010 07:38 In article <2e30cae0-635a-4277-a94e-e2d26e55b49e(a)a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Sean Hamerton <sean.hamerton(a)gmail.com> writes >On 17 Jan, 09:37, stephen.pac...(a)gonemail.com wrote: >> Sean Hamerton <sean.hamer...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > I bet there are ecomentalists out there intent on convincing people >> > the earthquake was linked to Climate Change(tm), previously marketed >> > as Global Warming(tm). >> >> > On that note, has anyone else seen the ad doing the rounds at the >> > moment that really smacks of propoganda: >> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62gsctP2gc >> >> What's your issue with this advert, is it that you don't accept a link >> between CO2 and climate change? >> >> Or is it the 'think of the children' approach? > >It's the shaming, dogmatic feel of it. > >And shirley if only 40% is due to everyday stuff, why not mention >where the other 60% is from? If you take into account the 25 'major' volcanos erupting at any one time[1], the off gassing of carbon dioxide rich submerged strata as they decrease in depth[2] plus the off gassing of permafrost areas[3], humans probably account for less than 10%[4] of green house gasses. And I left out all the cattle farting! Popocatepetl having a bad day puts North America's contribution to the problem in the shade.[5]. [Disclaimer: 1/ There may not be 25 volcanos erupting at any one time. 2/ The amount of CO2 given off is huge but the writer does not know the exact amount and will not be drawn into 6 form debating methods of "Show me where that's written down." 3/ Same goes for permafrost. See 2. 4/ 10% is a guess I'm not getting into the "48% is not 50% so you are wrong" thing. 5/ Popocatepetl (or Montserrat for that matter ) add other green house gasses See 2. OK so I've been watched a couple of episodes of 'Grumpy old men'. -- Mick Whittingham 'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.' William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
From: Mick Whittingham on 17 Jan 2010 07:42
In article <jeq5l591m59v44s46fpu56esvmoa7n6rnf(a)4ax.com>, Colin Irvine <look(a)bottom.of.home.page> writes >On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:26:23 +0000, Kim Bolton squeezed out the >following: > >> >>Sean Hamerton wrote: >> >>> >>>I bet there are ecomentalists out there intent on convincing people >>>the earthquake was linked to Climate Change(tm), previously marketed >>>as Global Warming(tm). >>> >>>On that note, has anyone else seen the ad doing the rounds at the >>>moment that really smacks of propoganda: >>> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62gsctP2gc >> >>oops... >> >>World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown >> >>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece > >It seems to me that too many people confuse two completely separate >issues - the speed with which the world is warming as a result of the >natural cycle of events on the one hand, Milankovitch's cycles is what most Climate Change and Global Warming 'doom and gloom' merchants forget. >and the extent to which >mankind is affecting both the speed and the final outcome of the cycle >on the other. Both are carelessly described as Climate Change and >Global Warming. > -- Mick Whittingham 'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.' William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2. |