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From: Colin Irvine on 18 Jan 2010 09:50 On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:19:53 +0000, steve auvache squeezed out the following: > Note for example that Hog totally >leaves out where we are going to get all this electricity to replace the >oil and gas. Nuclear Power perhaps? Not likely or it is game over >before it has even begun and where the world might recover in a century >or two after us from a bit of C02 no way will it survive a few chenobyls >and their after effects. I think much more of a problem is what to do with all the nuclear waste. -- Colin Irvine ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
From: steve auvache on 18 Jan 2010 10:08 In article <t6t8l59nc833pcam2pmp07l5nnlp0108ch(a)4ax.com>, Colin Irvine <look(a)bottom.of.home.page> writes >On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:19:53 +0000, steve auvache squeezed out the >following: > >> Note for example that Hog totally >>leaves out where we are going to get all this electricity to replace the >>oil and gas. Nuclear Power perhaps? Not likely or it is game over >>before it has even begun and where the world might recover in a century >>or two after us from a bit of C02 no way will it survive a few chenobyls >>and their after effects. > >I think much more of a problem is what to do with all the nuclear >waste. What rubbish, we ignore that side of it completely and change the name of the place where it is stored every few years so that people can forget about it. It is just plain silly to even consider it. If we did then nobody with half a brain would ever think NP was ever going to be a viable energy source. Although if ever it does become an issue we can always put Nu Labor in charge of it and pretend there is no problem. -- steve auvache
From: 'Hog on 18 Jan 2010 10:12 steve auvache wrote: > In article <4b546a94$0$2484$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog > <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> writes >> Kevin Gleeson wrote: >> >>> Nicely stated Hog. Mind if I quote you on that elsewhere? >> >> It's a public forum. >> >> See what I think is the debate is being taken over by anti-capitalist >> luddites. > > Once again the blinkers are upon you or is it your credit rating you > cannot see the trees for? > > Anti which version of capitalism? There are hordes of folks out there > with the sense to see the abject failure that is Merkin flavoured > capitalism and those same hordes are aware that there are much > healthier diets than unsaturated fats flavoured and coloured with > artificial additives and not all of them are Luddites I don't know what version of AC they subscribe to. Many I expect. But it is the usual suspects. -- Hog
From: DozynSleepy on 18 Jan 2010 10:13 Leszek Karlik wrote: snip > > I know, facts only stand in the way of a good emotional outcry. > "Think of the Chernobyls, we're all gonna die, aaaeeieieie!" > > Sigh. > Stuff really has to pass the "would I have it in my back yard" test. Don't suppose I would like a coal *or* nuclear powered station at the end of my street. Coal because of it's immediate dirtiness, nuclear because of it's long term dirtiness. -- DozynSleepy
From: Leszek Karlik on 18 Jan 2010 10:18
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:13:57 +0100, DozynSleepy <DozynSleepy(a)ireallymeannospam.invalid> wrote: [...] >> I know, facts only stand in the way of a good emotional outcry. >> "Think of the Chernobyls, we're all gonna die, aaaeeieieie!" >> Sigh. > Stuff really has to pass the "would I have it in my back yard" test. > Don't suppose I would like a coal *or* nuclear powered station at the > end of my street. I would like a nuke at the end of my street. :-) But yes, most people would like their energy to come from wall sockets, where it would appear through the magic of pink fairy dust. Wind power? NIMBY, kills birds and makes noise! Hydro dams? NIMBY, they have to flood a large area and stop salmon migrations. Solar? NIMBY, they look gash and have to be cleaned on a regular basis. And so on. Unfortunately, we don't have the money to pave Sahara with thermal solar and run superconducting cables through the Gibraltar strait. (Oh, yeah, and people would object to high-voltage power lines anyway. NIMBY, the electromagnetic radiation from power lines causes cancer and wounds mather Gaia!) -- Leszek 'Leslie' Karlik NTV 650 |