From: Mick Whittingham on
In article <MPG.25be73ed9099f7d3989e28(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> writes
>'Hog wrote:
>> Beav wrote:
>> > "wessie" <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns9D02E11477F84wtymmmsas(a)188.40.43.245...
>> >> Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote in
>> >> news:Tua64UfKNjULJAOI(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk:
>> >>
>> >>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Krusty
>> >>> <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> typed
>> >>>> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> OK, it's clusterfuck, and no mistake. Aid is taking way too long
>> >>>>> to get where it's needed.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> But...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Look, maybe this is just me. I am seeing news reports with large
>> >>>>> numbers of people milling about saying "we need help". And also
>> >>>>> (apparently) large numbers of dead bodies that are going to cause
>> >>>>> disease.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> They don't have shovels? Dig graves, guys.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> They have buried 50,000 apparently. Not bad going really.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, I have seen no references to that. If it's so, I withdraw the
>> >>> thought.
>> >>>
>> >>>> I suspect
>> >>>> most of the shovels are being used to dig live people out rather
>> >>>> than for digging holes to put dead people in.
>> >>>
>> >>> Understandably so, although burying the dead fast might be for the
>> >>> greater good.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> which might contaminate the water supplies. Cremation might be better
>> >
>> > But think about all that carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide caused by
>> > the fires being released into th' atmosphere. Nasty.
>>
>> I haven't heard anyone say it yet so let me be first.
>>
>> They live on a major tectonic fault line which has in the recent past caused
>> huge damage. They all group together in dense conurbations. They mostly
>> make buildings in construction and materials as likely to kill the occupants
>> in an earthquake as possible.
>>
>> Ergo......
>
>...some effort should be made to assist stable governance, the repayment
>or writing-off of loans from the years of major corruption, and the
>targeted use of international aid to help avoid the same mistakes being
>made?
>
>I wholeheartedly agree!
>
I thought this applicable:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/the-daily-cartoon-760940.html
--
Mick Whittingham
'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.'
William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
From: Colin Irvine on
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:10:51 -0000, 'Hog squeezed out the following:
>Centralised heating systems need to go electric,
>everywhere, shutting off supplies of oil and gas except where mains power is
>not available.

How are you going to generate all that electricity?

--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
From: steve auvache on
In article <4b54658a$0$2486$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog
<sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> writes
>
>Just wait until LA or San Fran get it served up cold.

It will be unbearable. As it is the BBC News right now would be better
titled the USABC News. I think if it happened I would be forced to
write to the DG to complain.

--
steve auvache
From: steve auvache on
In article <4b546a94$0$2484$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk>, 'Hog
<sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> writes
>Kevin Gleeson wrote:
>
>> Nicely stated Hog. Mind if I quote you on that elsewhere?
>
>It's a public forum.
>
>See what I think is the debate is being taken over by anti-capitalist
>luddites.

Once again the blinkers are upon you or is it your credit rating you
cannot see the trees for?

Anti which version of capitalism? There are hordes of folks out there
with the sense to see the abject failure that is Merkin flavoured
capitalism and those same hordes are aware that there are much healthier
diets than unsaturated fats flavoured and coloured with artificial
additives and not all of them are Luddites



--
steve auvache
From: Leszek Karlik on
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:19:53 +0100, steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk>
wrote:

[...]
> Nuclear Power perhaps? Not likely or it is game over
> before it has even begun and where the world might recover in a century
> or two after us from a bit of C02 no way will it survive a few chenobyls
> and their after effects.

Yeah, we all know the dreadful Chernobyls will rove the postnuclear
landscape
of the devastated Earth, eating small babies alive and spitting out their
little bones (which will glow sickly green in the dark).

FFS. There was only one Chernobyl, the design of the reactor was unsafe,
the death toll wasn't really that much (and primarily among the people who
went in to plug the leak), even taking into account small statistical
increase in cancer-related deaths in the neighbouring areas. WHO study
has shown that about 50 people have died directly because of Chernobyl,
and about 4000 might have died earlier because of Chernobyl. Coal kills
many, many more people (both directly - coal mining is not a safe
job - and indirectly, by cancer caused by atmospheric emissions).

The number of deaths per TWh for coal energy is 161 deaths per TWh
worldwide,
25 deaths per TWh in the EU.

Nuclear, taking into account Chernobyl, is 0,04 deaths per TWh.


I know, facts only stand in the way of a good emotional outcry.
"Think of the Chernobyls, we're all gonna die, aaaeeieieie!"

Sigh.

--
Leszek 'Leslie' Karlik
NTV 650
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