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From: The Older Gentleman on 30 Jun 2010 17:05 sweller <sweller(a)mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > What about the poor fucker who owned it originally - who probably > couldn't afford the luxury of losing his NCB etc? Cheaper than losing a bike. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Beav on 30 Jun 2010 17:49 "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:337db56d-5ea8-489a-a357-454af4d69d2f(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On 29 June, 12:20, "Beav" <beavis.origi...(a)ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > >> > I suspect this will be seen as an easy job so the police would pursue >> > it. >> >> If eBay gave them details and if the Plod bothered to pursue it. >> > > Dream on. > > A couple of years ago I went to collect a Nold GS750 I'd won on eBay, > and it had been so badly ringed it was a joke. > > My suspicions were alerted by the logbook first of all, which merely > listed a five- or six-digit number for the frame, inctead of all the > usual prefix stuff. Sure enough, you could see where the old number > had been ground away and you could eve make out one or two of the > original digits. > > The owner had had the bike for 24 years! Bought it off his best mate. > And he absolutely *refused* to accept it was a ringer. > > So I left neutral FB, saying it was a ringer but the seller hadn't > realised. And he complained to eBay, who removed the FB. And this was > despite my presenting my credentials, as it were, and offering any > independent inspection. So basically, eBay didn't like what you did, even though it was the right thing to do and you were in the right, but did eBay contact Plod and if so, did Plod do anything about it? If the answer to either of those is "No", then what I wrote above stands. -- Beav
From: Lozzo on 30 Jun 2010 19:47 sweller wrote: > TOG(a)Toil wrote: > > > It's easy for people to say: "Take it to Plod. Don't sell it on. Do > > the decent thing." when you can afford the luxury of saying that. > > What about the poor fucker who owned it originally - who probably > couldn't afford the luxury of losing his NCB etc? > > You can't just pick and choose morality - taking this kind of stance > that it's ok not to do the right thing undermines any future > pronouncements you may make in the future. Unfortunately the poor fucker who originally owned it has probably made a claim against his insurance for it, lost his NCD and is building it back up again. Returning the bike to the police and thence his insurer won't help him in the slightest. Whilst I have every sympathy with him, whatever happens to this bike will never impact directly on him, or help his situation. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
From: The Older Gentleman on 1 Jul 2010 02:09 Beav <beavis.original(a)ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:337db56d-5ea8-489a-a357-454af4d69d2f(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > On 29 June, 12:20, "Beav" <beavis.origi...(a)ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > > > >> > I suspect this will be seen as an easy job so the police would pursue > >> > it. > >> > >> If eBay gave them details and if the Plod bothered to pursue it. > >> > > > > Dream on. > > > > A couple of years ago I went to collect a Nold GS750 I'd won on eBay, > > and it had been so badly ringed it was a joke. > > > > My suspicions were alerted by the logbook first of all, which merely > > listed a five- or six-digit number for the frame, inctead of all the > > usual prefix stuff. Sure enough, you could see where the old number > > had been ground away and you could eve make out one or two of the > > original digits. > > > > The owner had had the bike for 24 years! Bought it off his best mate. > > And he absolutely *refused* to accept it was a ringer. > > > > So I left neutral FB, saying it was a ringer but the seller hadn't > > realised. And he complained to eBay, who removed the FB. And this was > > despite my presenting my credentials, as it were, and offering any > > independent inspection. > > So basically, eBay didn't like what you did, even though it was the right > thing to do and you were in the right, but did eBay contact Plod and if so, > did Plod do anything about it? If the answer to either of those is "No", > then what I wrote above stands. Ah, yes, I see. I missed the irony in your posting. Sorry. Ebay wouldn't contact Plod. Chummy told them th number had been checked out and wasfine - which it would have been, of course. But he didn't offer the bike itself up for inspection. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Adrian on 1 Jul 2010 02:39
"Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Unfortunately the poor fucker who originally owned it has probably made > a claim against his insurance for it, lost his NCD and is building it > back up again. Returning the bike to the police and thence his insurer > won't help him in the slightest. Whilst I have every sympathy with him, > whatever happens to this bike will never impact directly on him, or help > his situation. Apart from possibly indirectly - in that the recovery of the bike might help to convict the scrote who nicked it in the first place, which might mean that the original owner's replacement bike doesn't get nicked. And, yes, I know how slim those "mights" are. |