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From: Kevin on 28 Jun 2010 04:11 On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:12:31 +0100, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >It's a ringer. Absolutely 100% sure. It's been ringed well, and a casual >glance at the headstock wouldn't show anything amiss. It was only >because I was a tad suspicious that I got really up close and personal, >and could see it. > >So what to do? He's had the bike maybe 18 months. Possibly a bit longer. >I think it was an eBay purchase. Take a deep breath then tell the Police. (Oh, and kick you for spotting it!) Kevin -- '08 1400GTR,'08 R1200GS,'07 K8 Hayabusa,'05 FJR,'02 Dyna Super Glide,'90 FJ12 http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm
From: TOG on 28 Jun 2010 04:12 On 28 June, 08:41, "sweller" <swel...(a)mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > Lozzo wrote: > > > But what would you do? Anyone? > > > Same - get shot before it comes home to roost. Someone may at some time > > lose that bike with no chance of recovering any money from it, I > > wouldn't want to be that person. > > But that's simply wrong - would you like it if someone passed it on to > you, or a close mate? > > He's bought a stolen bike. Tell the police, maybe the insurers will let > him keep it. If it's an ebay purchase ebay may have kept records of the > transaction and contact details of the seller and they can pursue it. > > Either way it's wrong to pass it or parts of it to another 'mug' and it's > one of those lump it or plead ignorance. > I agree, and these days that's probably what I'd do. However, were I in the position of not being able to afford the potential loss, I think my attitude would differ. My next-door neighbour bought a (bad) ringer, and took it to Plod. They couldn't determine the true owner and he got the bike back, but had to re-register it on a Q plate, thereby rendering it nearly valueless anyway. But it was at least legal. I must say I didn't check the engine number. I'm assuming it's been changed as well.
From: Krusty on 28 Jun 2010 04:14 The Older Gentleman wrote: > So what to do? He's had the bike maybe 18 months. Possibly a bit > longer. I think it was an eBay purchase. > > Sell it now, fast, and move on was my (probably unethical) advice. I > doubt that 99% of purchasers would spot anything amiss and it will > continue to circulate on the roads until it gets scrapped. > > But what would you do? Anyone? Tell the police. Selling it would put him in the same pond as the scum who stole it in the first place, as he'd potentially be knowingly stealing whatever he sells it for from the buyer if it gets seized later. -- Krusty
From: Dr Zoidberg on 28 Jun 2010 05:11 "JackH" <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:c911e608-2680-4c31-97bf-e369a57e39e9(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 28, 7:38 am, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> >> One thing to bear in mind is that if he does sell it on, things could get >> very awkward if the buyer spots the problem, before or after the >> purchase - >> he could find himself charged with handling stolen goods. > > Unlikely... especially if he bought the bike from a tracable source / > has a receipt / invoice for it. > If he did try sell it and the police became involved, they would ask where he got if from - easy enough to prove where he bought it but they will also ask about the price paid and if it seemed reasonable for a legit bike. If his answers suggest that he should have known something wasn't right, or he says the wrong thing when asked why he's selling it, he could find himself charged. If you buy something in good faith, find it's stolen and then sell it on then you have committed the offence. What the likelihood of this happening is anyone's guess.... -- Alex
From: Dr Zoidberg on 28 Jun 2010 05:14
"TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:679b8874-9566-413e-a2ba-ef355513ab4e(a)k39g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> >> Morally, declaring it is the right thing to do, but like most people I'm >> sure I'd have second thoughts about this depending on how much it was >> going >> to cost me. >> >> One thing to bear in mind is that if he does sell it on, things could get >> very awkward if the buyer spots the problem, before or after the >> purchase - >> he could find himself charged with handling stolen goods. >> > > Yes. My own belief is that the chances of someone else spotting the > ring are very, very small. Certainly no MoT tester has. Were I in his > shoes, I'd just unload it and keep my fingers crossed. Or keep on > riding it until it's utterly dead, and keep my fingers crossed. > How long was he planning on keeping the bike anyway? If it's something he wanted to run for five or six years anyway then there's no reason why he can't still get that much use out of it, and if he can't sell it on at the end then any loss is much smaller. If he's really lucky it will get stolen [1] at some point and his problems go away. [1] No, I'm not suggesting insurance fraud here -- Alex |