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From: Colin Irvine on 27 Jun 2010 19:08 On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:12:31 +0100, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >But what would you do? Anyone? Tell the police. -- Col on hol http://www.colinandpat.co.uk/
From: frag on 27 Jun 2010 19:12 Hear Yea! Hear Yea! On 27 Jun 2010 22:54:57 GMT, Lozzo writ... > > frag wrote: > > > Seriously, isn't there someone on here who can check the police > > computers to see if it has been nicked or if it's legit? > > But... the numbers it has now will check out fine, it's the unknown > numbers it had previously that won't. How do you find those out and > keep possession of the bike? The numbers it has now are on two bikes, right? So I'm guessing that as far as the owner of the legit bike (with those numbers) is concerned, to them it'll seem like someone has re-registered their bike, a new owner, as if they've sold it. So they won't now get any tax reminders will they? I imagine they will have queried this by now, and so DVLA will have flagged that bikes details as cloned, reverted the V5 back to the legit owner, and when the cloned bike goes for its next MOT it'll set alarms off somewhere. But, yes, you are right in that it's the original numbers that are needed to establish which nicked bike it is. Actually, if the police cannot establish the bikes true identity, they can't return it to it's legal owner (the ins. co.), so don't they let the new owner keep it in those cases? ISTR hearing that somewhere. (probably on here so a load of crock :) -- frag
From: wessie on 27 Jun 2010 19:37 frag <news4(a)ukrm.co.uk> wrote in news:MPG.2691eb36d62347879896ad(a)www.ukrm.co.uk: > Hear Yea! Hear Yea! > On 27 Jun 2010 22:54:57 GMT, Lozzo writ... >> >> frag wrote: >> >> > Seriously, isn't there someone on here who can check the police >> > computers to see if it has been nicked or if it's legit? >> >> But... the numbers it has now will check out fine, it's the unknown >> numbers it had previously that won't. How do you find those out and >> keep possession of the bike? > > The numbers it has now are on two bikes, right? > > So I'm guessing that as far as the owner of the legit bike (with those > numbers) is concerned, to them it'll seem like someone has > re-registered their bike, a new owner, as if they've sold it. > as matey has had the bike for 18 months I imagine the DVLA system sees it as a legit bike i.e. the stolen bike was given the identity of a damaged bike. Possibly something on TPFT weighed in for scrap, sold at a salvage auction or a bike used on a track.
From: Lozzo on 27 Jun 2010 19:51 frag wrote: > Hear Yea! Hear Yea! > On 27 Jun 2010 22:54:57 GMT, Lozzo writ... > > > > frag wrote: > > > > > Seriously, isn't there someone on here who can check the police > > > computers to see if it has been nicked or if it's legit? > > > > But... the numbers it has now will check out fine, it's the unknown > > numbers it had previously that won't. How do you find those out and > > keep possession of the bike? > > The numbers it has now are on two bikes, right? Possibly not, in fact it's unlikely as this bike has been MOTd since the new owner bought it. > So I'm guessing that as far as the owner of the legit bike (with > those numbers) is concerned, to them it'll seem like someone has > re-registered their bike, a new owner, as if they've sold it. > > So they won't now get any tax reminders will they? > > I imagine they will have queried this by now, and so DVLA will have > flagged that bikes details as cloned, reverted the V5 back to the > legit owner, and when the cloned bike goes for its next MOT it'll set > alarms off somewhere. You haven't taken into account a ringer, not a cloned bike. If the original bike was a seious write off a new bike could have been stolen to order and the numbers swopped (ringed), then the old damaged bike broken up and flogged as parts with the frame being chopped up and binned. No numbers left on the original bike to mess things up. > But, yes, you are right in that it's the original numbers that are > needed to establish which nicked bike it is. > > Actually, if the police cannot establish the bikes true identity, > they can't return it to it's legal owner (the ins. co.), so don't > they let the new owner keep it in those cases? ISTR hearing that > somewhere. (probably on here so a load of crock :) No idea, but I wouldn't be prepared to take that chance. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
From: Mr. Johnson on 27 Jun 2010 20:34
I think you all are missing something. If someone has done 1 bike this way probally he will or has done more. It might be your bike nx time. But I do understand your thinking. If I had a counterfit 100$ bill would I go to the bank or pay a friend I owed. |