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From: crn on 27 Jun 2010 21:16 wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote: > > as matey has had the bike for 18 months I imagine the DVLA system sees > it as a legit bike i.e. the stolen bike was given the identity of a > damaged bike. Possibly something on TPFT weighed in for scrap, sold at a > salvage auction or a bike used on a track. It is quite possibly a semi-legitimate case of a previous owner having bent the bike and transferred his original numbers onto a secondhand frame. -- 03 GS500K2 76 Honda 400/4 project 78 Honda 400/4 in black 06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley)
From: The Older Gentleman on 28 Jun 2010 02:08 wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote: > > Because one day someone with eyes as sharp as mine will notice. Or > > maybe it'll get involved in an accident and Plod and/or insurance will > > get involved. And they'll be even more likely to notice. > > > > > > or, as Thomas says, lose out when the buyer finds out and comes for a > refund after reporting it to the police. Yes, but (and do trust me on this) 99% of buyers never even *look* at engine and chassis numbers, still less really ook at them *closely*. So the odds are against it. > > Could the value be recovered by breaking the bike? Possibly, but he's not up to that. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: The Older Gentleman on 28 Jun 2010 02:08 Thomas <keensurf(a)gmail.com> wrote: > How much does he have invested in it? About �2.2k, I think. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Dr Zoidberg on 28 Jun 2010 02:38 "The Older Gentleman" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1jkrmoe.9ymmvze08va4N%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk... > A mate has got a nice bike. Used, a few years old, invery good order. > Not saying what it is, for reasons that will become obvious. And as I > walked past it, in late evening sunshine, something about the VIN plate > riveted to the frame caught my eye. > > It was just reflecting too much light from the stamped letters. Not the > plate, but the letters themselves. And I looked closer. Hm. The numbers > seemed to have been stamped in just a bit too heavily. > > OK, onto the headstock. And oh deary deary dear. After the first > half-dozen generic serial numbers/letters, the numbers display a minor, > but tell-tale, variation in size and spacing. > > It's a ringer. Absolutely 100% sure. It's been ringed well, and a casual > glance at the headstock wouldn't show anything amiss. It was only > because I was a tad suspicious that I got really up close and personal, > and could see it. > > So what to do? He's had the bike maybe 18 months. Possibly a bit longer. > I think it was an eBay purchase. > > Sell it now, fast, and move on was my (probably unethical) advice. I > doubt that 99% of purchasers would spot anything amiss and it will > continue to circulate on the roads until it gets scrapped. > > But what would you do? Anyone? > Morally, declaring it is the right thing to do, but like most people I'm sure I'd have second thoughts about this depending on how much it was going to cost me. One thing to bear in mind is that if he does sell it on, things could get very awkward if the buyer spots the problem, before or after the purchase - he could find himself charged with handling stolen goods. -- Alex
From: JackH on 28 Jun 2010 02:43
On Jun 27, 10:12 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > But what would you do? Anyone? Not a good situation to be in. Your friend has several options, some which will almost certainly lead to them ending up out of pocket, and some which won't... although you wouldn't want to shout about the latter on a public medium such as an NG, IMHO. Does this friend exist, or are you doing some research for a new article? ;-) -- JackH |