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From: Hog on 28 Jun 2010 06:30 Champ wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:16:26 +0000 (UTC), crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com > wrote: > >> wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote: >>> >>> as matey has had the bike for 18 months I imagine the DVLA system >>> sees it as a legit bike i.e. the stolen bike was given the identity >>> of a damaged bike. Possibly something on TPFT weighed in for scrap, >>> sold at a salvage auction or a bike used on a track. > >> It is quite possibly a semi-legitimate case of a previous owner >> having bent the bike and transferred his original numbers onto a >> secondhand frame. > > That's not the way you do it, tho, is it. If you bend your bike and > buy a second-hand frame, then you use the V5 and registration number > of *that* frame. Another scenario. You have a bike which is CatC or worse. Either you bought it that way for buttons or bought it back from the InsCo. Cosmetics, which you repair and for little outlay have an (apparently) straight bike. Unfortunately the value of said bike will always be fucked and it will be hard to sell. Now suppose a frame and V5 comes you way. Do you (a) spend several days changing the frame or (b) change the numbers of the existing frame and use your new number plate, notifying DVLA of a change of engine number. -- Hog
From: TOG on 28 Jun 2010 07:23 On 28 June, 11:30, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: <snip> Hm. Well, he's going to hang onto the bike for the foreseeable, he says. Hypothetically. I'm still surprised how few people check, really check, engine and chassis numbers when they buy used vehicles. Show of hands time - who does it, each and every time, carefully? Or am I the only one? Lozzo, I'll bet you do.
From: Hog on 28 Jun 2010 07:29 TOG(a)Toil wrote: > On 28 June, 11:30, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > <snip> > > Hm. Well, he's going to hang onto the bike for the foreseeable, he > says. Hypothetically. > > I'm still surprised how few people check, really check, engine and > chassis numbers when they buy used vehicles. > > Show of hands time - who does it, each and every time, carefully? Or > am I the only one? Lozzo, I'll bet you do. Me, as you might expect. FWIW I've known a couple of old school MOT testers who check very carefully. -- Hog
From: Lozzo on 28 Jun 2010 07:51 Hog wrote: > TOG(a)Toil wrote: > >On 28 June, 11:30, "Hog" <sm911S...(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > Hm. Well, he's going to hang onto the bike for the foreseeable, he > > says. Hypothetically. > > > > I'm still surprised how few people check, really check, engine and > > chassis numbers when they buy used vehicles. > > > > Show of hands time - who does it, each and every time, carefully? Or > > am I the only one? Lozzo, I'll bet you do. > > Me, as you might expect. > > FWIW I've known a couple of old school MOT testers who check very > carefully. I admit I've taken a mate's Honda VF750F for an MOT with the wrong reg plate and wrong rivetted on chassis plate[1] a long time ago. I knew the tester had eyesight trouble and he always asked me to read the VIN off for him, so I read the one on the rivetted plate. It had two very different VINs on the bike at the same time, one for a Y regd bike the other for a C regd one. Got me an MOT without spending about 500 quid on repairs though. You'd never get away with it now. [1] Mine -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 28 Jun 2010 09:13
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) saying something like: >> But I do understand your thinking. >> If I had a counterfit 100$ bill would I >> go to the bank or pay a friend I owed. > >That's because you're a Yank Web-foot TV user and very stupid. He could pay his web-tv bill with it. I'm amazed that's still going, tbh. |