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From: Thomas on 27 Jun 2010 17:38 On Jun 27, 2:26 pm, wessie <putmynameh...(a)tesco.net> wrote: > totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote innews:1jkrmoe..9ymmvze08va4N%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk: > > > > > A mate has got a nice bike. Used, a few years old, invery good order. > > Not saying what it is, for reasons that will become obvious. And as I > > walked past it, in late evening sunshine, something about the VIN plate > > riveted to the frame caught my eye. > > > It was just reflecting too much light from the stamped letters. Not the > > plate, but the letters themselves. And I looked closer. Hm. The numbers > > seemed to have been stamped in just a bit too heavily. > > > OK, onto the headstock. And oh deary deary dear. After the first > > half-dozen generic serial numbers/letters, the numbers display a minor, > > but tell-tale, variation in size and spacing. > > > It's a ringer. Absolutely 100% sure. It's been ringed well, and a casual > > glance at the headstock wouldn't show anything amiss. It was only > > because I was a tad suspicious that I got really up close and personal, > > and could see it. > > > So what to do? He's had the bike maybe 18 months. Possibly a bit longer.. > > I think it was an eBay purchase. > > Even if your memory is correct I would check to see if the seller was a > legit trader. If the seller was and is still in business then I might > contact the dealer or Trading Standards. Ultimately the seller is liable. And if ToG's friend sells it, and the next buyer finds out, T's friend is the one liable. > > Sell it now, fast, and move on was my (probably unethical) advice. I > > doubt that 99% of purchasers would spot anything amiss and it will > > continue to circulate on the roads until it gets scrapped. > > > But what would you do? Anyone? > > Is the bike over 3 years old and hence got past an MOT tester? If it has, > what's wrong with keeping it assuming it is mechanically sound? How much does he have invested in it?
From: wessie on 27 Jun 2010 17:45 totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote in news:1jkro08.svrs2ptn869fN%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk: > wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote: > >> Even if your memory is correct I would check to see if the seller was >> a legit trader. If the seller was and is still in business then I >> might contact the dealer or Trading Standards. Ultimately the seller >> is liable. >> > I'm 99% sure it was a private sale. > > >> Is the bike over 3 years old and hence got past an MOT tester? > > Yes. > >>If it has, >> what's wrong with keeping it assuming it is mechanically sound? > > Because one day someone with eyes as sharp as mine will notice. Or > maybe it'll get involved in an accident and Plod and/or insurance will > get involved. And they'll be even more likely to notice. > > or, as Thomas says, lose out when the buyer finds out and comes for a refund after reporting it to the police. Could the value be recovered by breaking the bike? Insurance fraud: just make sure the "stolen" bike cannot be recovered. -- wessie at tesco dot net BMW R1150GS
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 27 Jun 2010 17:51 We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) saying something like: >So what to do? He's had the bike maybe 18 months. Possibly a bit longer. >I think it was an eBay purchase. Break it, if it's in any way sought after. What about the engine number? The way I see it, it was bought in good faith and your mate might not / probably doesn't want to lumber someone else with a millstone. So, the insurance has paid out, everybody's coughed up and your mate might get what he'd sell it for anyway and if the frame is gas-axed, there's an end to it.
From: frag on 27 Jun 2010 18:31 Hear Yea! Hear Yea! On 27 Jun 2010 21:30:21 GMT, Lozzo writ... > > The Older Gentleman wrote: > > > A mate has got a nice bike. Used, a few years old, invery good order. > > Not saying what it is, for reasons that will become obvious. And as I > > walked past it, in late evening sunshine, something about the VIN > > plate riveted to the frame caught my eye. > > <snip> > > But what would you do? Anyone? > > Same - get shot before it comes home to roost. Someone may at some time > lose that bike with no chance of recovering any money from it, I > wouldn't want to be that person. All very well but there's a chance of selling it to the wrong person who, when it's confiscated by plod, will come back and make TOGs friends limbs bend in all sorts of new and interesting ways. Personally I'd never get revenge like that. I'd pay a grand to someone to do it for me :) Seriously, isn't there someone on here who can check the police computers to see if it has been nicked or if it's legit? -- frag
From: Lozzo on 27 Jun 2010 18:54
frag wrote: > Seriously, isn't there someone on here who can check the police > computers to see if it has been nicked or if it's legit? But... the numbers it has now will check out fine, it's the unknown numbers it had previously that won't. How do you find those out and keep possession of the bike? -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) |