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From: Krusty on 29 Jun 2010 04:25 Andy Bonwick wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:14:40 +0000 (UTC), "Krusty" > <dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: > > > > Tell the police. Selling it would put him in the same pond as the > > scum who stole it in the first place, as he'd potentially be > > knowingly stealing whatever he sells it for from the buyer if it > > gets seized later. > > What are your views on people who sell frames that are totally fucked > but because they've got the correct documentation they're worth decent > money? > > I've sold a frame that was so badly twisted that you couldn't get the > tank to sit straight and I cut the engine out of it but I needed the > money to buy another bike after smashing that one up so ignored the > fact that the reg number would be on a stolen bike within weeks. You don't know that's what'll happen though - there are genuine reasons for buying a reg doc[1]. And you're not potentially stealing money directly from an innocent buyer. It's not something I'd do though unless I knew for certain what it was going to be used for. [1] Building a special that you don't want on a Q plate, or getting a track bike on the road etc. Not legal maybe, but not involving bike theft. -- Krusty
From: Beav on 29 Jun 2010 07:22 "SIRPip" <gingerbloke(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:xn0gvygds5s5r7a00q(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Pip Luscher wrote: > >> VIN number > > <slap> Common parlance these days, so "sort of" acceptable. -- Beav
From: CT on 29 Jun 2010 07:30 Beav wrote: > "SIRPip" <gingerbloke(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > Pip Luscher wrote: > > > > > VIN number > > > > <slap> > > Common parlance these days, Troo enough but... > so "sort of" acceptable. NFW! -- Chris
From: TOG on 29 Jun 2010 07:38 On 29 June, 12:20, "Beav" <beavis.origi...(a)ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > > I suspect this will be seen as an easy job so the police would pursue it. > > If eBay gave them details and if the Plod bothered to pursue it. > Dream on. A couple of years ago I went to collect a Nold GS750 I'd won on eBay, and it had been so badly ringed it was a joke. My suspicions were alerted by the logbook first of all, which merely listed a five- or six-digit number for the frame, inctead of all the usual prefix stuff. Sure enough, you could see where the old number had been ground away and you could eve make out one or two of the original digits. The owner had had the bike for 24 years! Bought it off his best mate. And he absolutely *refused* to accept it was a ringer. So I left neutral FB, saying it was a ringer but the seller hadn't realised. And he complained to eBay, who removed the FB. And this was despite my presenting my credentials, as it were, and offering any independent inspection.
From: Charlie on 29 Jun 2010 09:01
On 28/06/2010 07:08, The Older Gentleman wrote: > Yes, but (and do trust me on this) 99% of buyers never even *look* at > engine and chassis numbers, still less really ook at them *closely*. So > the odds are against it. >> >> Could the value be recovered by breaking the bike? > > Possibly, but he's not up to that. Well, if he's a mate, as you say, why not have a quiet word with him and then (if he's as worried as you are about it) help him to realise maximum value by breaking the bike for/with him. It resolves a tricky legal situation, gets a ringer out of the market, ensures he won't have any comebacks from a buyer/Police/insco, gives him a new experience and skill, cements a friendship and may even provide you with enough material for a paying article. Everyone's a winner. If he shrugs it off, however, and spurns your help ... well, at least you'll have tried and your conscience will be clear. Where do I send my invoice? |