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From: JackH on 28 Jun 2010 09:30 On Jun 28, 10:11 am, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote: > "JackH" <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:c911e608-2680-4c31-97bf-e369a57e39e9(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...> On Jun 28, 7:38 am, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> > >> One thing to bear in mind is that if he does sell it on, things could get > >> very awkward if the buyer spots the problem, before or after the > >> purchase - > >> he could find himself charged with handling stolen goods. > > > Unlikely... especially if he bought the bike from a tracable source / > > has a receipt / invoice for it. > > If he did try sell it and the police became involved, they would ask where > he got if from - easy enough to prove where he bought it but they will also > ask about the price paid and if it seemed reasonable for a legit bike. If > his answers suggest that he should have known something wasn't right, or he > says the wrong thing when asked why he's selling it, he could find himself > charged. > If you buy something in good faith, find it's stolen and then sell it on > then you have committed the offence. Yes but he_hasn't_found_out_it's_a_bit_iffy... has he. ;-) He can therefore appear to be both shocked and surprised, as well as very helpful in providing pointers towards who he bought it from, should the police knock on his door subsequent to him having sold it, IYSWIM. -- JackH
From: JackH on 28 Jun 2010 09:31 On Jun 28, 9:08 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 28 June, 07:43, JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > On Jun 27, 10:12 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older > > > Gentleman) wrote: > > > But what would you do? Anyone? > > > Not a good situation to be in. > > > Your friend has several options, some which will almost certainly lead > > to them ending up out of pocket, and some which won't... although you > > wouldn't want to shout about the latter on a public medium such as an > > NG, IMHO. > > > Does this friend exist, or are you doing some research for a new > > article? ;-) > > Oh, purely hypothetical. Of course. (1) > Should have said. Indeed. (1) ;-) -- JackH
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 28 Jun 2010 11:27 We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> saying something like: > >> The chances of him getting the bike back are high because it *is* a good ringing job. > >Ok... so how does that fit with mullering the numbers of said 'good >ringing job', should he follow the advice above and go to hand the >bike in? UV flourescence reveals the old numbers under the ringed ones. A technique that's been around for years. Basically when the original numbers were stamped in, they indelibly strain the surrounding metal and to totally grind them out would utterly knacker the frame. That's why some ringers will weld in a new patch of metal on a car body, so there's no trace of the old one at all. However, a proper car-theft copper will spot such things.
From: JackH on 28 Jun 2010 11:57 On Jun 28, 4:27 pm, Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the > drugs began to take hold. I remember JackH <jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk> > saying something like: > > > > >> The chances of him getting the bike back are high because it *is* a good ringing job. > > >Ok... so how does that fit with mullering the numbers of said 'good > >ringing job', should he follow the advice above and go to hand the > >bike in? > > UV flourescence reveals the old numbers under the ringed ones. A > technique that's been around for years. Basically when the original > numbers were stamped in, they indelibly strain the surrounding metal and > to totally grind them out would utterly knacker the frame. That's why > some ringers will weld in a new patch of metal on a car body, so there's > no trace of the old one at all. However, a proper car-theft copper will > spot such things. Older stuff such as mid 80s Fords / Vauxhalls etc, the chassis number was stamped into the drivers side front floorpan... so there was a tendency for toerags to cut the whole panel out and replace it with one with a different number stamped into it, or alternatively they used to remove the drivers seat / carpet, and then tack in enough of the floorpan taken from the 'donor' as it were, so that the ringer had an authentic chassis number in the right place and with the floorpan looking visibly untouched unless you wanted to lift the carpet / drivers seat again. Anyway, getting back to my point above, if I were considering handing the bike in, I'd be handing it in as is rather than tampering with the evidence as it were as suggested above, as the more authentic looking the dodgy numbers, the more likely it is plod will believe you'd had no idea up until now rather than having to explain why you'd bought and held onto something with blatantly illegible and tampered with numbers, for 18 months plus. :-) -- JackH
From: wessie on 28 Jun 2010 12:39
JackH <jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:6f74dcf8-6fdc-4466-b4e5-e642c1d2962d(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com: > Anyway, getting back to my point above, if I were considering handing > the bike in, I'd be handing it in as is rather than tampering with the > evidence as it were as suggested above, as the more authentic looking > the dodgy numbers, the more likely it is plod will believe you'd had > no idea up until now rather than having to explain why you'd bought > and held onto something with blatantly illegible and tampered with > numbers, for 18 months plus. :-) > Your original point is spurious. There is a significant body of data to indicate that many punters don't check VINs when buying, or if they do they don't know what to look for. As the bike has got past an MOT inspection then the renumbering must be fairly convincing. There would be nothing to explain other than saying, "I asked a mate, an expert in the used bike trade, to look over the bike as I wanted a valuation and he spotted the problem." |