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From: S'mee on 20 Feb 2010 21:28 On Feb 20, 5:48 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 20, 5:37 pm, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Yeah well, over carb'd under cam'd open piped harley's need all the > > help they can get. ;^) I mean if you are having to blip the throttle > > at a stop light...you carburation is off and you likely have the wrong > > cam also. > > Which leads us to the age-old, philisophical question: If a Honda > blipped its throttle in the forest, would anyone hear it? yep...especially if they have some loud assed aftermarket track use only pipes on it. It must gall more than a few Harley owners that a 30 year old Honda with stock pipes is louder than their stock Harley...sounds better also. 8^)
From: S'mee on 20 Feb 2010 21:29 On Feb 20, 6:08 pm, "Snag" <snag_...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > S'mee wrote: > > On Feb 20, 5:08 pm, "Snag" <snag_...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> S'mee wrote: > >>> On Feb 20, 10:27 am, "Snag" <snag_...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >>>> S'mee wrote: > >>>>> On Feb 20, 4:10 am, krusty kritter <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> On Feb 20, 2:39 am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> Think that will help overheating at idle? > > >>>>>> Just drill out the EPA anti-tamper plug and turn the idle mixture > >>>>>> screw about 1 turn counterclockwise. > > >>>>>> If you have to turn the screw more than 3.0 full turns out from > >>>>>> lightly seated, the idle jet is too small. > > >>>>>> DynoJet kits are bullshit, the people at DynoJet are preying upon > >>>>>> the ignorance of riders who don't know how CV > >>>>>> carburetors work. > > >>>>>> Go towww.factorypro.comandspendanevening or two reading about CV > >>>>>> carb tuning before you waste $100+ > >>>>>> on a Dynojet kit. > > >>>>> LOL...still stealing others knowledge and claiming it for > >>>>> yourself. > > >>>>> Better than factory pro ime is: > > >>>>>http://users.conwaycorp.net/virtus/page2/speed/jetting.htm > > >>>> I disagree with this statement : "The only way to know what jetting > >>>> changes you will need is by trial-and-error." > >>>> That may have been true when he penned (typed ?) those words , but > >>>> nowadays with dyno and wide-band 02 sensor technology it's not . It > >>>> can get pretty expensive though ... > > >>> Now...where can I find one? Hmm? I don't think there is one withing > >>> 200mi of me. I'm will to wager an "I told you so" that not even the > >>> Harley dealerships nearby have one. I suspect the nearest one is in > >>> washington state from where I sit. ergo the statement still holds > >>> water it's also true if one is at the dirt track. > > >> My point was that there IS technology that negates his statement . I > >> can't help it if you live so far out in the boonies that it's not > >> available to YOU > > > Yes but if something isn't readily available then it might as well NOT > > exist. So there NYAHH! > > >> MY Harley dealer DOES have this technology , so there thpbbbbttttt ! > > > Yeah well, over carb'd under cam'd open piped harley's need all the > > help they can get. ;^) I mean if you are having to blip the throttle > > at a stop light...you carburation is off and you likely have the wrong > > cam also. > > Original carb with K&N , EV23 or maybe EV27 (it was in the bike when I got > it) cam , slightly modified stock exhaust - blocked crossover , holes in > baffle tube enlarged and fiberglass packing added for noise control . And > once it's warmed up , it idles very happily at stoplights . My plugs are a > very light tan , darkening slightly up inside the insulator . > But there are a LOT of guys out there that fit your description exactly . Yep and lots of them rode BSA adn Triumph choppers when I was a kid...with the SAME problems.
From: Robert Bolton on 21 Feb 2010 06:00 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:10:05 -0800 (PST), krusty kritter <breoganmacbrath(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Feb 20, 2:39�am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: > >> Think that will help overheating at idle? > >Just drill out the EPA anti-tamper plug and turn the idle mixture >screw about 1 turn counterclockwise. > >If you have to turn the screw more than 3.0 full turns out from >lightly seated, the idle jet is too small. > >DynoJet kits are bullshit, the people at DynoJet are preying upon the >ignorance of riders who don't know how CV >carburetors work. > >Go to www.factorypro.com and spend an evening or two reading about CV >carb tuning before you waste $100+ >on a Dynojet kit. I'll look through factorypro. Thanks. Robert
From: Robert Bolton on 21 Feb 2010 06:54 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:38:26 -0600, "Snag" <snag_one(a)comcast.net> wrote: >krusty kritter wrote: >> On Feb 20, 2:39 am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: >> >>> Think that will help overheating at idle? >> >> Just drill out the EPA anti-tamper plug and turn the idle mixture >> screw about 1 turn counterclockwise. >> >> If you have to turn the screw more than 3.0 full turns out from >> lightly seated, the idle jet is too small. >> >> DynoJet kits are bullshit, the people at DynoJet are preying upon the >> ignorance of riders who don't know how CV >> carburetors work. >> >> Go to www.factorypro.com and spend an evening or two reading about CV >> carb tuning before you waste $100+ >> on a Dynojet kit. > >That's the first good advice I've seen from you ! > > FWIW Robert , I'm running an Andrews cam , EV23 I think (in the motor when >I bought the bike) with a K&N filter and modified stock mufflers and I get >40+ MPG . I didn't punch the baffles , I cut the muffs open and drilled the >holes in the center tube bigger - lotta work . Something to remember , if >you let more air in , you need to let more out , and give it more gas to >keep the mixture balanced . A .020" washer under the clip on the needle >will enrichen the midrange a little bit , along with a larger main for WOT . >If you replace the cam , be sure you replace the inboard needle bearing with >a Torrington unit , the stock item is NOT up to the loads of a higher lift >cam with fast ramps . Goes without sayin' (but I will anyway) to install new >tappets too . Thanks for the tips. I don't have a tachometer, but I still have a mercury column vacuum gauge out in the garage. Tune the idle screw to highest vacuum? About the pipes, Yeah, what you did sounds like a lot of work. I read somewhere, though I don't recall where right now, that the pipes on the 1997 1340 are the same as was used on the 1450, or at least the first year or two of the 1450. So I was telling myself I might be able to get away with leaving the mufflers stock because the factory says it's big enough for a larger displacement engine. It might be a faulty wish, but I'm just worried less restrictive mufflers mean more noise. It wouldn't be such a big deal if I hadn't trashed my ears half a dozen years ago, but it doesn't take much to get them ringing these days. You're certainly right about the flow though. > You might want to subscribe to Harley Tech Talk , there's a ton of great >info in the archives there . Will do. Thanks Robert
From: Robert Bolton on 21 Feb 2010 07:07
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:41:25 -0800 (PST), saddlebag <saddlebag(a)aol.com> wrote: >On Feb 20, 5:39�am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: >> Spring is around the corner, a 6 week corner, and I've yet to perform >> my motorcycle chores on my 1997 Electra Glide. >> >> 1) A new windshield. Quantum coated polycarb is apparently the >> material of choice, as opposed to acrylic or uncoated polycarb. �OEM >> 12 inch was fine for me (although I must sit up straight to see over >> it), but am wondering if there are aftermarket shapes that would >> reduce passenger buffeting. �We wear flip-ups, and the wife muse use >> the chin insert to prevent updraft from entering under the chin bar >> and up into her eyes. To date I've read bout Cee Bailey Super Step, >> Klock Werks Flare, and National Vstream.http://www.ceebaileys.com/harley/flhtssc_ws.htmlhttp://www.nationalcycle.com/catalog/NC_NewProduct_VStream.pdf >> I'm thinking OEM or National's VStream. >> >> Anyone have experience with the Vstream, or other turbulence reducing >> shield? > >I have one on my FJR and it is fantastic. > >http://www.photoshop.com/accounts/8c577227b4d14abd8878d3202052ae82/px-assets/ddfcac3f645b4cf89a7a8b48409b6456 > > Well, perhaps I'll give it a try then. Robert |