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From: Robert Bolton on 22 Feb 2010 01:02 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:59:16 -0800 (PST), "Road Glidin' Don" <d.langkd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Feb 21, 8:36�pm, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: > >> I don't want plugs fouling and pistons carbonning, but having zero oil >> pressure and an illuminated OIL warning light once last summer really >> did stress me a bit. > >Leave the bike alone and fuggetaboutit! > >When the oil gets hot and runs like water it requires hardly any >pressure to push through the engine's innards, so of course the >pressure drops to (what reads out on the gauge as) zero. I don't >think there's anything to worry about. The oil's still flowing. It's >happened many times on my Road Glide, which is still running fine >after >200K kms. > >Plus, you live in Alaska, man! If your bike getting real hot on >occasion is a concern, having synthetic oil in it would be a good >idea. I've always used Mobil 1 15w/50 synthetic, FWIW. > I know, I know. I keep telling myself that people ride these things in places like Phoenix, Las Vegas, etc, so Anchorage, with a record high temp of something like 87 F, shouldn't be a problem. I've been using Harley's synth. There's just something about a red illuminated oil can that gives me the willies. Robert
From: Mark Olson on 22 Feb 2010 06:12 Robert Bolton wrote: > The following link is what got me to consider the Vstream. It's just > a sales brochure, but it at least displays the theory behind the > design. The brochure doesn't have a lot to say about passengers > though, and you never know how it will interact with airflow around > the batwing. > > http://www.nationalcycle.com/catalogue/VStream.shtml There's really no way that they can legitimately claim the same benefit for their windscreen design on multiple bike models, since the size and placement of the screen varies so much from bike to bike. You're just going to have to experiment and find an arrangement that works for you.
From: don (Calgary) on 22 Feb 2010 10:25 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:20:13 -0900, Robert Bolton <robertboltondrop(a)gci.net> wrote: >On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 07:12:30 -0600, Mark Olson <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> >wrote: > >>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:41:25 -0800 (PST), saddlebag >>> <saddlebag(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Feb 20, 5:39 am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: >> >>>>> it), but am wondering if there are aftermarket shapes that would >>>>> reduce passenger buffeting. We wear flip-ups, and the wife muse use >>>>> the chin insert to prevent updraft from entering under the chin bar >> >>>>> Anyone have experience with the Vstream, or other turbulence reducing >>>>> shield? >> >>>> I have one on my FJR and it is fantastic. >> >>I have nothing against the Vstream, from what I hear they work good on >>the FJR. I just want to point out that means little to Robert since >>he rides a different bike. Turbulence is complicated and the only way >>to tell what works on your particular setup is to try it, or hope to >>find someone else who has a very similar bike and similar sized rider >>and passenger, and get their input. The shield and its shape are only >>one part of the whole system that generates turbulence. >> >Yup. Especially when I've got that batwing fairing. > >>My former ZG1000 Concours had a reputation for turbulence that was >>difficult to mitigate. I tried the stock shield and a Rifle shield >>but wasn't happy with either one. I sold it before I figured out how >>to fix it. > >My wife had wind entering via the bottom of her helmet on our Concours >too, so it may be that the turbulence is something pillions just have >to live with when the bike has some genuine wind protection up front. > >The following link is what got me to consider the Vstream. It's just >a sales brochure, but it at least displays the theory behind the >design. The brochure doesn't have a lot to say about passengers >though, and you never know how it will interact with airflow around >the batwing. > >http://www.nationalcycle.com/catalogue/VStream.shtml > >Robert Have you tried the wind deflectors that attach to the front forks? I added them to my bike and they significantly reduced the turbulence. I am not sure if they would improve the ride for a passenger though. HD Part #58121-85B
From: Road Glidin' Don on 22 Feb 2010 10:31 On Feb 22, 8:25 am, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:20:13 -0900, Robert Bolton > > > > > > <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: > >On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 07:12:30 -0600, Mark Olson <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> > >wrote: > > >>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:41:25 -0800 (PST), saddlebag > >>> <saddle...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >>>> On Feb 20, 5:39 am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: > > >>>>> it), but am wondering if there are aftermarket shapes that would > >>>>> reduce passenger buffeting. We wear flip-ups, and the wife muse use > >>>>> the chin insert to prevent updraft from entering under the chin bar > > >>>>> Anyone have experience with the Vstream, or other turbulence reducing > >>>>> shield? > > >>>> I have one on my FJR and it is fantastic. > > >>I have nothing against the Vstream, from what I hear they work good on > >>the FJR. I just want to point out that means little to Robert since > >>he rides a different bike. Turbulence is complicated and the only way > >>to tell what works on your particular setup is to try it, or hope to > >>find someone else who has a very similar bike and similar sized rider > >>and passenger, and get their input. The shield and its shape are only > >>one part of the whole system that generates turbulence. > > >Yup. Especially when I've got that batwing fairing. > > >>My former ZG1000 Concours had a reputation for turbulence that was > >>difficult to mitigate. I tried the stock shield and a Rifle shield > >>but wasn't happy with either one. I sold it before I figured out how > >>to fix it. > > >My wife had wind entering via the bottom of her helmet on our Concours > >too, so it may be that the turbulence is something pillions just have > >to live with when the bike has some genuine wind protection up front. > > >The following link is what got me to consider the Vstream. It's just > >a sales brochure, but it at least displays the theory behind the > >design. The brochure doesn't have a lot to say about passengers > >though, and you never know how it will interact with airflow around > >the batwing. > > >http://www.nationalcycle.com/catalogue/VStream.shtml > > >Robert > > Have you tried the wind deflectors that attach to the front forks? I > added them to my bike and they significantly reduced the turbulence. I > am not sure if they would improve the ride for a passenger though. > > HD Part #58121-85B I hear those things keep you quite a bit drier when riding in rain too.
From: Snag on 22 Feb 2010 10:43
Road Glidin' Don wrote: > On Feb 22, 8:25 am, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:20:13 -0900, Robert Bolton >> >> >> >> >> >> <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> wrote: >>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 07:12:30 -0600, Mark Olson <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> >>> wrote: >> >>>>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:41:25 -0800 (PST), saddlebag >>>>> <saddle...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Feb 20, 5:39 am, Robert Bolton <robertboltond...(a)gci.net> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> it), but am wondering if there are aftermarket shapes that would >>>>>>> reduce passenger buffeting. We wear flip-ups, and the wife muse >>>>>>> use the chin insert to prevent updraft from entering under the >>>>>>> chin bar >> >>>>>>> Anyone have experience with the Vstream, or other turbulence >>>>>>> reducing shield? >> >>>>>> I have one on my FJR and it is fantastic. >> >>>> I have nothing against the Vstream, from what I hear they work >>>> good on the FJR. I just want to point out that means little to >>>> Robert since he rides a different bike. Turbulence is complicated >>>> and the only way to tell what works on your particular setup is to >>>> try it, or hope to find someone else who has a very similar bike >>>> and similar sized rider and passenger, and get their input. The >>>> shield and its shape are only one part of the whole system that >>>> generates turbulence. >> >>> Yup. Especially when I've got that batwing fairing. >> >>>> My former ZG1000 Concours had a reputation for turbulence that was >>>> difficult to mitigate. I tried the stock shield and a Rifle shield >>>> but wasn't happy with either one. I sold it before I figured out >>>> how to fix it. >> >>> My wife had wind entering via the bottom of her helmet on our >>> Concours too, so it may be that the turbulence is something >>> pillions just have to live with when the bike has some genuine wind >>> protection up front. >> >>> The following link is what got me to consider the Vstream. It's just >>> a sales brochure, but it at least displays the theory behind the >>> design. The brochure doesn't have a lot to say about passengers >>> though, and you never know how it will interact with airflow around >>> the batwing. >> >>> http://www.nationalcycle.com/catalogue/VStream.shtml >> >>> Robert >> >> Have you tried the wind deflectors that attach to the front forks? I >> added them to my bike and they significantly reduced the turbulence. >> I am not sure if they would improve the ride for a passenger though. >> >> HD Part #58121-85B > > I hear those things keep you quite a bit drier when riding in rain > too. Had a set of home-made deflectors on my Sportster , kind of an upside-down teardrop shape . Made a world of difference in both updraft behind the windshield and in how much rain hit me . Can't say whether it'd help the passenger though , never carried one on that bike . I have a pair of clear plastic deflectors that screw to the bottom edge of the fairing on this bike , they help . There's also a semi-circular piece that mounts to the back side bottom of the lower tripletree , it also helps a lot . The lower fairings do the most good though , especially in the rain .. Dry feet ! -- Snag "90 FLHTCU "Strider" '39 WLDD "PopCycle" BS 132/SENS/DOF |