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From: Adrian on 19 Nov 2009 09:57 "Mike White" <mikewhite(a)surrey.org> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> > Thoughts, anyone? >>> Print it out and keep the piece of paper. >> If you need to produce a payslip for whatever reason (mortgage, etc) >> will they accept something like that? > Dunno. I'm not sure if your company can do this? Of course. I've been emailed PDF payslips for years now. Sage et al have the ability to produce a payslip on pre-printed stationary or with the form itself printed by the app - and if you can send it to a printer, you can send it to a PDF. > Legally I suppose it depends on the definition of "written". This is 2009. > From HR Revenue and Customs: > > "By law, every pay day you must give your employee a written record of > pay and deductions, including: Written as opposed to verbal.
From: YTC#1 on 19 Nov 2009 09:59 Mike White wrote: > "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:315fa98a-70a0-48fb-8ccd->> >>>> Thoughts, anyone? >>> Print it out and keep the piece of paper. >> If you need to produce a payslip for whatever reason (mortgage, etc) >> will they accept something like that? > > Dunno. I'm not sure if your company can do this? > Legally I suppose it depends on the definition of "written". > > From HR Revenue and Customs: > > "By law, every pay day you must give your employee a written record of pay > and deductions, including: > > a.. 'gross pay' - before the deduction of tax or National Insurance > contributions (NICs) and any other deductions > b.. employee's Class 1 NICs deducted > c.. tax deducted" You could have a good point there, Sun US did ePAYSLIP, but Sun UK could not, for "legal reasons". -- Bruce Porter XJR1300SP, XJ900F, GSX250, Pegaso 650 Trail POTM#1(KoTL), WUSS#1 , YTC#1(bar), OSOS#2(KoTL) , DS#3 , IbW#18 ,Apostle#8 "The internet is a huge and diverse community and not every one is friendly" http://www.ytc1.co.uk There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
From: Mark Olson on 19 Nov 2009 09:59 TOG(a)Toil wrote: > My company has announced that henceforth we won't receive paper > payslips. There will be electronic payslips, accessible by the > intranet. > > If we want to save copies, we are forbidden to do so on company > machines. We have to save them to our home pooters. I'm not clear about this- are they saying you can't view the e-payslips on your company machine, only on your home computer? The use of the term intranet rather than internet implies you are able to access them from your work computer. If that is so, then they are being stored on your work computer despite the prohibition on saving them, if only in the temporary cache. Are you forbidden from saving your payslips to a USB flash drive plugged into your company computer? Personally I would copy the file (PDF?) to my home server using scp, which is reasonably secure, then to comply with the rules, delete the file on the company machine. > On these slips will be name, DOB, NI number, payroll number, etc etc. > The usual. > > It strikes me that moving payroll records security from behind the > corporate system (which is pretty secure) and placing it in the hands > of Vanilla Windoze operators is not a bright thing to do. Any > compromised PC will yield some nice ID theft material. Company says > the system is secure, and adds that secuirty of your own PC is your > own responsibility. I'm saying that the company's own system is likely > to be considerably more secure. Theoretically you have the option of using a computer at home that is not networked and is then only vulnerable to physical theft.
From: YTC#1 on 19 Nov 2009 10:00 TOG(a)Toil wrote: > My company has announced that henceforth we won't receive paper > payslips. There will be electronic payslips, accessible by the > intranet. Did your payslip go through the post ? -- Bruce Porter XJR1300SP, XJ900F, GSX250, Pegaso 650 Trail POTM#1(KoTL), WUSS#1 , YTC#1(bar), OSOS#2(KoTL) , DS#3 , IbW#18 ,Apostle#8 "The internet is a huge and diverse community and not every one is friendly" http://www.ytc1.co.uk There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
From: Mike White on 19 Nov 2009 10:06
"YTC#1" <bdp(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in message news:a3dNm.25453$fF2.20267(a)newsfe26.ams2... > Mike White wrote: >> "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:315fa98a-70a0-48fb-8ccd->> >>>>> Thoughts, anyone? >>>> Print it out and keep the piece of paper. >>> If you need to produce a payslip for whatever reason (mortgage, etc) >>> will they accept something like that? >> >> Dunno. I'm not sure if your company can do this? >> Legally I suppose it depends on the definition of "written". >> >> From HR Revenue and Customs: >> >> "By law, every pay day you must give your employee a written record of >> pay and deductions, including: >> >> a.. 'gross pay' - before the deduction of tax or National Insurance >> contributions (NICs) and any other deductions >> b.. employee's Class 1 NICs deducted >> c.. tax deducted" > > > You could have a good point there, Sun US did ePAYSLIP, but Sun UK could > not, for "legal reasons". > It seems that employees do have a right to a written paper payslip, if they insist. Mike |