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From: Sean_Q_ on 19 Nov 2009 19:46
geoff wrote:

> You should have gone to the police, told them that you found this money
> in your bank account, then returned a month later to ask if it had been
> claimed ... then claimed possession

You could be right. However, our benighted Canadian education system
didn't instruct us on how to handle every possible situation.

Apparently, the UK schools don't, either. For instance some poor bloke
recently found a shotgun in his garden. Trying to act like good citizen,
he took it to the police station to turn it in... and was promptly
arrested and charged with a serious firearms offense -- and he's looking
at 5 years in Wormwood Scrubbs, minimum.

I can only hope the British justice system eventually comes to
their senses and starts to act reasonably in this case.

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news/Ex-soldier-faces-jail-handing-gun/article-1509082-detail/article.html

SQ
From: geoff on 19 Nov 2009 20:31
In message <he4os0$9bf$1(a)aioe.org>, Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> writes
>geoff wrote:
>
>> You should have gone to the police, told them that you found this
>>money in your bank account, then returned a month later to ask if it
>>had been claimed ... then claimed possession
>
>You could be right. However, our benighted Canadian education system
>didn't instruct us on how to handle every possible situation.

Or common sense solutions ?

>
>Apparently, the UK schools don't, either. For instance some poor bloke
>recently found a shotgun in his garden. Trying to act like good citizen,
>he took it to the police station to turn it in... and was promptly
>arrested and charged with a serious firearms offense -- and he's looking
>at 5 years in Wormwood Scrubbs, minimum.

Maybe you should read the thread on this, it appears that there might be
more to this than meets the eye


>
>I can only hope the British justice system eventually comes to
>their senses and starts to act reasonably in this case.
>
>http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news/Ex-soldier-faces-jail-handing-gu
>n/article-1509082-detail/article.html
>
>SQ

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geoff
From: Andy Bonwick on 20 Nov 2009 02:50
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:32:57 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:28:43 +0000, ginge
><the.gingeREMOVE(a)THISgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I can't see how they could easily enforce what you do with them, and
>>suspect the reason they don't want them saved on local machines is so
>>one member of staff doesn't see somebody elses payslip due to a
>>careless mistake on a shared machine.
>
>Why would that be 'wrong'? Surely, it's your information, and up to
>you what you do with it.
>
>I could leave my paper payslip clearly visible on my desk, if I
>wanted. I could scan it and put in on the internet. It's my data.

One of our directors (1) has to ask me my rates every year because the
others don't tell him.

(1) You've met John, he's a bit 'special'.
From: Cab on 20 Nov 2009 03:46
On Nov 19, 3:59 pm, YTC#1 <b...(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:

> > "By law, every pay day you must give your employee a written record of pay
> > and deductions, including:
>
> >   a.. 'gross pay' - before the deduction of tax or National Insurance
> > contributions (NICs) and any other deductions
> >   b.. employee's Class 1 NICs deducted
> >   c.. tax deducted"
>
> You could have a good point there, Sun US did ePAYSLIP, but Sun UK could
> not, for "legal reasons".

What if the payslips are electronically signed?

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Cab
From: CT on 20 Nov 2009 03:55
ginge wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:32:57 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I could leave my paper payslip clearly visible on my desk, if I
> > wanted. I could scan it and put in on the internet. It's my data.
>
> Sure it is, but there's the possibility that doing so would cause your
> employer issues if somebody (or several people) earning less found out
> and made a fuss.
>
> And that may mean your employer wouldn't want it happening, so despite
> it being unenforceable, could state a policy.

No company I've ever worked out has said to me:
"Now, once a month we'll give you a payslip in an envelope. We have a
policy that it must not be opened and left unattended on your desk in
case someone else see it, as it might cause us 'issues'."

I don't see what the physical medium has to do with it.

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Chris
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