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From: Lady Nina on 20 Nov 2009 05:09 On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:46:27 -0800, Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> wrote: >You could be right. However, our benighted Canadian education system Hang on, I'm writing a report which highlights how certain areas of Canada are in the top league of education in the world. Boss is over there atm at a conference which is being used as a first run for the results of our two year project before it has its launch here in March. Which bit are you in and when were you last in the education system? -- Lady Nina
From: YTC#1 on 20 Nov 2009 05:20 Cab wrote: > On Nov 19, 3:59 pm, YTC#1 <b...(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote: > >>> "By law, every pay day you must give your employee a written record of pay >>> and deductions, including: >>> a.. 'gross pay' - before the deduction of tax or National Insurance >>> contributions (NICs) and any other deductions >>> b.. employee's Class 1 NICs deducted >>> c.. tax deducted" >> You could have a good point there, Sun US did ePAYSLIP, but Sun UK could >> not, for "legal reasons". > > What if the payslips are electronically signed? Dunno, don't care :-P -- Bruce Porter XJR1300SP, XJ900F, GSX250, Pegaso 650 Trail POTM#1(KoTL), WUSS#1 , YTC#1(bar), OSOS#2(KoTL) , DS#3 , IbW#18 ,Apostle#8 "The internet is a huge and diverse community and not every one is friendly" http://www.ytc1.co.uk There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
From: YTC#1 on 20 Nov 2009 05:24 Beav wrote: > "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:8b21d507-24de-4b18-8d54-25d48164d6aa(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... <snip> > > I wouldn't but it looks like you've not got a lot of choice. I even opted > out of the NHS spine for the simple reason that thre's no such thing as a > properly secure electronic database. If it's accessible to one, it can be > accessed by others and not necessarily authorised folk either. In which case you have not put much thought into what will be kept, where and how that info could save your life. When you, for what ever reason, are taken into a hospital 100s of miles from home, unconscious, and they make a request for allergy info that takes 3 days to arrive instead of a couple of mins, your possible death may have been avoided. Just a small use for a connected system that makes sense. -- Bruce Porter XJR1300SP, XJ900F, GSX250, Pegaso 650 Trail POTM#1(KoTL), WUSS#1 , YTC#1(bar), OSOS#2(KoTL) , DS#3 , IbW#18 ,Apostle#8 "The internet is a huge and diverse community and not every one is friendly" http://www.ytc1.co.uk There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
From: TOG on 20 Nov 2009 06:19 On 20 Nov, 08:55, "CT" <m...(a)christrollen.co.uk> wrote: > ginge wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:32:57 +0000, Champ <n...(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: > > > > I could leave my paper payslip clearly visible on my desk, if I > > > wanted. I could scan it and put in on the internet. It's my data. > > > Sure it is, but there's the possibility that doing so would cause your > > employer issues if somebody (or several people) earning less found out > > and made a fuss. > > > And that may mean your employer wouldn't want it happening, so despite > > it being unenforceable, could state a policy. > > No company I've ever worked out has said to me: > "Now, once a month we'll give you a payslip in an envelope. We have a > policy that it must not be opened and left unattended on your desk in > case someone else see it, as it might cause us 'issues'." > > I don't see what the physical medium has to do with it. > I don't mind how the payslips and their info are communicated to us as employees. What worries me is the insistence that the only way to keep a payroll record (with all its sensitive data such as NI number) henceforth is on your personal PC. Not a work PC, behind a corporate firewall, but on a rather more vulnerable device. OK, so sending payroll slips through the post has its risks, as does emailing them, but in this instance a whole new security risk has deliberately been opened up where it didn't exist before. Oh, and to make things better we've just been told that the slips can *only* be viewed on a Windoze PC and *only* in IE7, so us Mac bods (and those who choose to use Firefox, Chrome, Opera or indeed anything other than IE) are stuffed. Well, no worries. I'll demand a paper slip, as ever.
From: Colin Irvine on 20 Nov 2009 06:24
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:24:53 +0000, YTC#1 squeezed out the following: >Beav wrote: >> "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:8b21d507-24de-4b18-8d54-25d48164d6aa(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... ><snip> > >> >> I wouldn't but it looks like you've not got a lot of choice. I even opted >> out of the NHS spine for the simple reason that thre's no such thing as a >> properly secure electronic database. If it's accessible to one, it can be >> accessed by others and not necessarily authorised folk either. > > >In which case you have not put much thought into what will be kept, >where and how that info could save your life. > >When you, for what ever reason, are taken into a hospital 100s of miles >from home, unconscious, and they make a request for allergy info that >takes 3 days to arrive instead of a couple of mins, your possible death >may have been avoided. > >Just a small use for a connected system that makes sense. It's the only use I've ever heard used to justify it. I don't have any allergies. Are there any other uses? -- Colin Irvine ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk |