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From: Adrian on 19 Nov 2009 11:08 Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Many, many small business use third parties to run their payroll for > them. So do many, many large businesses.
From: Simon Wilson on 19 Nov 2009 11:20 Champ wrote: > And then the final pay slip will be sent by that paragon of > secure carriage, the Royal Mail. heh. I once met a guy who had started a company offering secure delivery of credit cards. Because the credit card co's had so many issues with normal post he managed to secure the business. Apparently, for the first collection he made from a certain company in Northampton, they just turned up in a bunch of cars and the credit cards were all just chucked into the boot. He obviously delivered them all ok because I got the impression that he had made rather a lot of money out of the venture. -- /Simon
From: Timo at Work on 19 Nov 2009 11:55 On Nov 19, 2:42 pm, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > My company has announced that henceforth we won't receive paper > payslips. There will be electronic payslips, accessible by the > intranet. > > If we want to save copies, we are forbidden to do so on company > machines. We have to save them to our home pooters. > > On these slips will be name, DOB, NI number, payroll number, etc etc. > The usual. > > It strikes me that moving payroll records security from behind the > corporate system (which is pretty secure) and placing it in the hands > of Vanilla Windoze operators is not a bright thing to do. Any > compromised PC will yield some nice ID theft material. Company says > the system is secure, and adds that secuirty of your own PC is your > own responsibility. I'm saying that the company's own system is likely > to be considerably more secure. > > Thoughts, anyone? Yes. I'd hazard a guess that it's got nowt whatsoever to do with security at all. If you don't save your payslips on your work computer, your nosey colleagues and the sysadmins can't find it while digging around for "interesting" stuff.
From: Colin Irvine on 19 Nov 2009 12:25 On 19 Nov 2009 14:57:35 GMT, Adrian squeezed out the following: >"Mike White" <mikewhite(a)surrey.org> gurgled happily, sounding much like >they were saying: > >>>> > Thoughts, anyone? > >>>> Print it out and keep the piece of paper. > >>> If you need to produce a payslip for whatever reason (mortgage, etc) >>> will they accept something like that? > >> Dunno. I'm not sure if your company can do this? > >Of course. > >I've been emailed PDF payslips for years now. Sage et al have the ability >to produce a payslip on pre-printed stationary or with the form itself >printed by the app - and if you can send it to a printer, you can send it >to a PDF. > >> Legally I suppose it depends on the definition of "written". > >This is 2009. > >> From HR Revenue and Customs: >> >> "By law, every pay day you must give your employee a written record of >> pay and deductions, including: > >Written as opposed to verbal. Nah. I'm sure a verbal payslip, although somewhat long-winded, would be fine as long as it was written and not oral. -- Colin Irvine ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
From: Pete Murray on 19 Nov 2009 13:25
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:55:36 -0800 (PST), Timo at Work <timohg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Yes. I'd hazard a guess that it's got nowt whatsoever to do with >security at all. > On the contrary, it seems like a pretty good security move to me: it would certainly discourage the sharing of account passwords. -- Pete KLE650 |