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From: Beav on 21 Nov 2009 07:03 "ginge" <the.gingeREMOVE(a)THISgmail.com> wrote in message news:q2ibg5ph375vdf73pctf3ugmr5rjtpe92c(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:29:45 -0000, "Beav" > <beavis.original(a)ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > >>I even opted >>out of the NHS spine for the simple reason that thre's no such thing as a >>properly secure electronic database. If it's accessible to one, it can be >>accessed by others and not necessarily authorised folk either. > > Are you aware you're channeling today's Dilbert? Nope and IDGAF anyway. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
From: Beav on 21 Nov 2009 07:08 "YTC#1" <bdp(a)ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote in message news:Y7uNm.25850$fF2.7(a)newsfe26.ams2... > Beav wrote: >> "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:8b21d507-24de-4b18-8d54-25d48164d6aa(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > <snip> > >> >> I wouldn't but it looks like you've not got a lot of choice. I even opted >> out of the NHS spine for the simple reason that thre's no such thing as a >> properly secure electronic database. If it's accessible to one, it can be >> accessed by others and not necessarily authorised folk either. > > > In which case you have not put much thought into what will be kept, where > and how that info could save your life. I've put enough thought into it thank you. > > When you, for what ever reason, are taken into a hospital 100s of miles > from home, unconscious, and they make a request for allergy info that > takes 3 days to arrive instead of a couple of mins, your possible death > may have been avoided. Have you never heard of notes? I have my wallet and in that wallet is enough info to tell them who I am and a card telling "whoever" what my blood type is, that I'm allergic to aspirin and that I'm a T1 diabollock. That's enough info for anyone. Plus, I've managed 61 years so far without being on the spine, so I think I'll survive and if I don't, I'll know nothing about it anyway. > > Just a small use for a connected system that makes sense. Feel free to sign up then. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
From: Beav on 21 Nov 2009 07:14 "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:91038fc1-ccdc-439f-b12c-399a50e434e9(a)l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> No company I've ever worked out has said to me: >> "Now, once a month we'll give you a payslip in an envelope. We have a >> policy that it must not be opened and left unattended on your desk in >> case someone else see it, as it might cause us 'issues'." >> >> I don't see what the physical medium has to do with it. > >I don't mind how the payslips and their info are communicated to us as >employees. What worries me is the insistence that the only way to keep >a payroll record (with all its sensitive data such as NI number) >henceforth is on your personal PC. Not a work PC, behind a corporate >firewall, but on a rather more vulnerable device. There'll be a record at your bank too. Forever. >OK, so sending payroll slips through the post has its risks, as does >emailing them, but in this instance a whole new security risk has >deliberately been opened up where it didn't exist before. For security reasons :-) >Oh, and to make things better we've just been told that the slips can >*only* be viewed on a Windoze PC and *only* in IE7, so us Mac bods >(and those who choose to use Firefox, Chrome, Opera or indeed anything >other than IE) are stuffed. > >Well, no worries. I'll demand a paper slip, as ever. But will your demands be met? -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
From: Beav on 21 Nov 2009 07:16
"'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message news:he628r$6pn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Jim wrote: >> TOG(a)Toil wrote: >>>> Your home network will likely have a small handful of people on it, >>>> who you would sincerely hope do not have any malicious intent with >>>> your personal data. Your work network will have many more people >>>> who have more motivation to access your payslip and use it for a >>>> purpose for which it was not intended. >>>> >>>> Internet nastiness is internal as well as external >>>> >>> Very good point. But why increase the risk by having the details on >>> intranet *and* home machines which are much more vulnerable to >>> external attack that corporate systems? >> >> In the near future there will be companies that will manage this for >> you - you'll be able to get your payslips, bank statements, utility >> bills all stored securely online. > > You already can! He said "securely" :) -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |