Some Car Dealers Will Never Change
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From: don (Calgary) on 13 Mar 2010 13:23 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:07:10 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:59:24 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk >> (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >> >> > >> >Do they really do this? On this side of the water, the used price is the >> >used price. You *might* have to pay extra for the road tax if this has >> >expired, but that's it. >> >> Just out of curiosity, what does your road tax cost? > >For cars, it varies according to CO2 emissions. Electric and gas - zero. >Gas guzzlers, lots. > >Motorcycles - flat fee in four bands according to capacity. > >Everything's here:- > >http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/ >DG_10012524 Ouch!!! And that is annually? We pay a fraction of that for cars and half of that for motorcycles. Hell I pay less for insurance than the highest rate for your auto road tax. It appears to be based on CO2 emissions. Is that how they justify it? If I ever buy another vehicle from a dealer I won't feel so bad with their $100.00 processing fee.
From: Datesfat Chicks on 13 Mar 2010 13:27 "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:jo2mp55v0jpgetkhiqt5cik2a6gomjbtv6(a)4ax.com... > > Once I added a subject to an offer I signed. I added my offer is > subject to the approval of my wife. Of course I was mocking the > process, but it did serve to make the dealer commit to a selling price > while I retained an off ramp. They kinda choked over that one. It almost makes me want to go into a car dealership just to mess with them. With me, it will be "subject to the approval of my cat". My line will be that my cat has to enjoy riding in the car, and also the hood has to retain warmth for the right amount of time after the engine is stopped so the cat can sleep comfortably on it. I could bring a contact thermometer and take notes on the temperature at various points on the hood at various time intervals after the car is turned off. I could also inquire if the car has an electric hood warmer for my cat (my last car had one!) and demand a discount because they don't offer this option. I've never been carried out of a car dealership. Could be fun. Datesfat
From: The Older Gentleman on 13 Mar 2010 13:46 don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:07:10 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk > (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > >don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:59:24 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk > >> (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >Do they really do this? On this side of the water, the used price is the > >> >used price. You *might* have to pay extra for the road tax if this has > >> >expired, but that's it. > >> > >> Just out of curiosity, what does your road tax cost? > > > >For cars, it varies according to CO2 emissions. Electric and gas - zero. > >Gas guzzlers, lots. > > > >Motorcycles - flat fee in four bands according to capacity. > > > >Everything's here:- > > > >http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/ > >DG_10012524 > > Ouch!!! Well, quite. > > And that is annually? Yes. > > We pay a fraction of that for cars and half of that for motorcycles. > > Hell I pay less for insurance than the highest rate for your auto road > tax. So do I, actually. A lot less. > > It appears to be based on CO2 emissions. Is that how they justify it? Erm, the clue is in my last posting. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Scott on 13 Mar 2010 14:02 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:14:09 GMT, in rec.motorcycles, "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: >I have thought of that. I have the XJ6, which is a terrific car to >drive and is really in incredible condition for it's age. It can use a >paint job and some work on the upholstery to be in near perfect >condition. I am on the edge of throwing a bunch of money at it and >then use it as my daily driver. The downside is I could never recover >the improvement money if I wanted to sell it. They are just not worth >much, regardless of the condition. Right now I could sell it for what >I have in it. Investing five grand in paint and upholstery work >wouldn't increase the selling price. I've known several people that resisted the idea of putting money into overhauling an older vehicle for just that reason, that they would never be able to get that money back out in a sale. And then these same people boogie down to the car lot and trade in the old car to buy a brand new one. I never could figure that one out. -- '73 CB450K '82 CB900F (x2) '04 FSC600 (SWMBO)
From: don (Calgary) on 13 Mar 2010 14:10
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:02:11 GMT, nobody(a)xmission.com (Scott) wrote: >On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:14:09 GMT, in rec.motorcycles, "don (Calgary)" ><hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > >>I have thought of that. I have the XJ6, which is a terrific car to >>drive and is really in incredible condition for it's age. It can use a >>paint job and some work on the upholstery to be in near perfect >>condition. I am on the edge of throwing a bunch of money at it and >>then use it as my daily driver. The downside is I could never recover >>the improvement money if I wanted to sell it. They are just not worth >>much, regardless of the condition. Right now I could sell it for what >>I have in it. Investing five grand in paint and upholstery work >>wouldn't increase the selling price. > >I've known several people that resisted the idea of putting money into >overhauling an older vehicle for just that reason, that they would never be >able to get that money back out in a sale. And then these same people >boogie down to the car lot and trade in the old car to buy a brand new one. >I never could figure that one out. It is a matter of value, value to the owner. If I throw $5k at the XJ I will have a very nice car to use as a daily driver. If I keep the car for say another five to ten years it is money well spent and good value for me. Of course if I turn around and sell it it is a crappy deal for me but great value for the buyer. |