From: Aham Brahmasmi on
On Mar 16, 2:54 am, "Karma Kunt" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk>
komplained:

> So I reached for the phone to ask my wife to come out in the car with
> the jump leads. Guess who left his phone on his office desk yesterday?
> Bah.

What goes around comes around, Karma Kunt.
From: S'mee on
On Mar 16, 1:37 am, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> Aham Brahmasmi <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 15, 1:03 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Turd in the
> > Punchbowl) snotted off with:
>
> > > I mean, you've already advocated kickstarts on fuel-injected engines.
>
> > What? Don't you think that FI will work on engines that have very low
> > cranking speeds?
>
> > How do FI Harley Big Twins ever start?
>
> You are *amazingly* ignorant. Cranking speeds have nothing to do with
> it.
>
> If you've got no electrical power and the starter won't work and you
> have to resort to a kickstarter (which was the reason why you made your
> asinine remark in the first place), yes, you can spin the engine fast
> enough to generate a spark.
>
> However, FI systems have a pump and need to generate fuel pressure for
> the FI to work.
>
> How are you going to do that with a kickstarter? Unless you've got a
> right leg that would make Lightning Bolt weep in envy.


Well I can't say as you could do it for some bloated lump like a
Harley, but...Honda and couple other trials bike makers have gone FI
with no battery adn a kick start. Not sure how they fiddle it BUT it
works. <shrug> But those are little bikes.
From: S'mee on
On Mar 16, 3:54 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> And right on cue....
>
> Took the Triumph out from the garage this morning. It started fine a
> couple of months ago, when I ran it up, but it wasn't having any
> today. Battery had fallen below 'criticial FI volts requirement'
> level. Jump-start from the car, then, on the expectation that it'd
> charge up on my 45-minute run to work.
>
> Only I didn't foresee some git in a white van jumping a red light and
> me jamming on the brakes and stalling it, just two miles up the road.
> When it hadn't charged up enough. That's when I confirmed that no, you
> really can't bump-start an FI engine.
>
> So I reached for the phone to ask my wife to come out in the car with
> the jump leads. Guess who left his phone on his office desk yesterday?
> Bah.

Lol...you dumbass. Guess you are buying pints all 'round. 8^)
From: TOG on
On 16 Mar, 13:55, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 3:54 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <snip>
>
> > And right on cue....
>
> > Took the Triumph out from the garage this morning. It started fine a
> > couple of months ago, when I ran it up, but it wasn't having any
> > today. Battery had fallen below 'criticial FI volts requirement'
> > level. Jump-start from the car, then, on the expectation that it'd
> > charge up on my 45-minute run to work.
>
> > Only I didn't foresee some git in a white van jumping a red light and
> > me jamming on the brakes and stalling it, just two miles up the road.
> > When it hadn't charged up enough. That's when I confirmed that no, you
> > really can't bump-start an FI engine.
>
> > So I reached for the phone to ask my wife to come out in the car with
> > the jump leads. Guess who left his phone on his office desk yesterday?
> > Bah.
>
> Lol...you dumbass. Guess you are buying pints all 'round. 8^)

<Hangs head in shame>

Guilty as charged. I managed to borrow a phone off a bemused passer-by
to ring my wife.
From: TOG on
On 16 Mar, 13:54, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 1:37 am, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>
>
>
> Gentleman) wrote:
> > Aham Brahmasmi <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 15, 1:03 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Turd in the
> > > Punchbowl) snotted off with:
>
> > > > I mean, you've already advocated kickstarts on fuel-injected engines.
>
> > > What? Don't you think that FI will work on engines that have very low
> > > cranking speeds?
>
> > > How do FI Harley Big Twins ever start?
>
> > You are *amazingly* ignorant. Cranking speeds have nothing to do with
> > it.
>
> > If you've got no electrical power and the starter won't work and you
> > have to resort to a kickstarter (which was the reason why you made your
> > asinine remark in the first place), yes, you can spin the engine fast
> > enough to generate a spark.
>
> > However, FI systems have a pump and need to generate fuel pressure for
> > the FI to work.
>
> > How are you going to do that with a kickstarter? Unless you've got a
> > right leg that would make Lightning Bolt weep in envy.
>
> Well I can't say as you could do it for some bloated lump like a
> Harley, but...Honda and couple other trials bike makers have gone FI
> with no battery adn a kick start. Not sure how they fiddle it BUT it
> works. <shrug> But those are little bikes.

Still interesting.