From: Aham Brahmasmi on 16 Mar 2010 09:00 On Mar 16, 2:54 am, "Karma Kunt" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> komplained: > So I reached for the phone to ask my wife to come out in the car with > the jump leads. Guess who left his phone on his office desk yesterday? > Bah. What goes around comes around, Karma Kunt.
From: S'mee on 16 Mar 2010 09:54 On Mar 16, 1:37 am, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > Aham Brahmasmi <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On Mar 15, 1:03 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Turd in the > > Punchbowl) snotted off with: > > > > I mean, you've already advocated kickstarts on fuel-injected engines. > > > What? Don't you think that FI will work on engines that have very low > > cranking speeds? > > > How do FI Harley Big Twins ever start? > > You are *amazingly* ignorant. Cranking speeds have nothing to do with > it. > > If you've got no electrical power and the starter won't work and you > have to resort to a kickstarter (which was the reason why you made your > asinine remark in the first place), yes, you can spin the engine fast > enough to generate a spark. > > However, FI systems have a pump and need to generate fuel pressure for > the FI to work. > > How are you going to do that with a kickstarter? Unless you've got a > right leg that would make Lightning Bolt weep in envy. Well I can't say as you could do it for some bloated lump like a Harley, but...Honda and couple other trials bike makers have gone FI with no battery adn a kick start. Not sure how they fiddle it BUT it works. <shrug> But those are little bikes.
From: S'mee on 16 Mar 2010 09:55 On Mar 16, 3:54 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > <snip> > > And right on cue.... > > Took the Triumph out from the garage this morning. It started fine a > couple of months ago, when I ran it up, but it wasn't having any > today. Battery had fallen below 'criticial FI volts requirement' > level. Jump-start from the car, then, on the expectation that it'd > charge up on my 45-minute run to work. > > Only I didn't foresee some git in a white van jumping a red light and > me jamming on the brakes and stalling it, just two miles up the road. > When it hadn't charged up enough. That's when I confirmed that no, you > really can't bump-start an FI engine. > > So I reached for the phone to ask my wife to come out in the car with > the jump leads. Guess who left his phone on his office desk yesterday? > Bah. Lol...you dumbass. Guess you are buying pints all 'round. 8^)
From: TOG on 16 Mar 2010 11:30 On 16 Mar, 13:55, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 16, 3:54 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > <snip> > > > And right on cue.... > > > Took the Triumph out from the garage this morning. It started fine a > > couple of months ago, when I ran it up, but it wasn't having any > > today. Battery had fallen below 'criticial FI volts requirement' > > level. Jump-start from the car, then, on the expectation that it'd > > charge up on my 45-minute run to work. > > > Only I didn't foresee some git in a white van jumping a red light and > > me jamming on the brakes and stalling it, just two miles up the road. > > When it hadn't charged up enough. That's when I confirmed that no, you > > really can't bump-start an FI engine. > > > So I reached for the phone to ask my wife to come out in the car with > > the jump leads. Guess who left his phone on his office desk yesterday? > > Bah. > > Lol...you dumbass. Guess you are buying pints all 'round. 8^) <Hangs head in shame> Guilty as charged. I managed to borrow a phone off a bemused passer-by to ring my wife.
From: TOG on 16 Mar 2010 11:31
On 16 Mar, 13:54, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 16, 1:37 am, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older > > > > Gentleman) wrote: > > Aham Brahmasmi <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Mar 15, 1:03 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Turd in the > > > Punchbowl) snotted off with: > > > > > I mean, you've already advocated kickstarts on fuel-injected engines. > > > > What? Don't you think that FI will work on engines that have very low > > > cranking speeds? > > > > How do FI Harley Big Twins ever start? > > > You are *amazingly* ignorant. Cranking speeds have nothing to do with > > it. > > > If you've got no electrical power and the starter won't work and you > > have to resort to a kickstarter (which was the reason why you made your > > asinine remark in the first place), yes, you can spin the engine fast > > enough to generate a spark. > > > However, FI systems have a pump and need to generate fuel pressure for > > the FI to work. > > > How are you going to do that with a kickstarter? Unless you've got a > > right leg that would make Lightning Bolt weep in envy. > > Well I can't say as you could do it for some bloated lump like a > Harley, but...Honda and couple other trials bike makers have gone FI > with no battery adn a kick start. Not sure how they fiddle it BUT it > works. <shrug> But those are little bikes. Still interesting. |