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From: Jeff Mayner on 13 Jun 2007 04:18 Two Wheels Good, Four Wheels Bad wrote: > On Jun 12, 12:17?pm, Nate Bargmann > <n0nb.DO.NOT.S...(a)ME.networksplus.net> wrote: > >> Now, that may seem charmed, perhaps even quaint. But, how else can >> we get the eco-activists on our side and promoting motorcycles while >> still being able to use fossil fuels for our own gratification? > > I suggest using the slogan, "Two Wheels Good, Four Wheels Bad." > > > (Ich bin nicht deiner Fuhrer.) Well, of course you're not!
From: Dave on 13 Jun 2007 15:34 "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665(a)uwe> wrote in message news:73a63e60daf1a(a)uwe... > Dave wrote: > > > Did you miss where Thumper wrote "Armenian"? > > Do you have Armenians living in your neighborhood, Dave? If you don't, you > cannot conceive of how rude and self-centered a neighbor can be. > > If it sounds like I'm just an intolerant bigot, be aware that anybody who > has > dealings with the "Armos" learns to hate them. > No armenians in my neighborhood, I am too far north (so far). I'd guess that most folks on this newsgroups aren't dealing with Armenian-specific issues and, like myself, didn't take Thumper's post in such a narrowly-focused context. Read back, I'm pretty sure the topic was loud pipes, not Armenians. if you don't like Armenians, then you have free choice to relocate to somewhere where there are none. Freedom is a double-edged sword, you know? I think it's disgusting on so many levels to operate a business on welfare money, and it's also illegal. As do many Americans, I feel that the immigration laws need an overhaul. I understand one is in the works which would curtail family sponsorship (read "all your useless aged relatives get to come here no questions asked and become another leech on our already overburdened welfare system") and give more preference to skilled workers. If the Armenians don't contribute or if they break any, and I mean ANY laws, there should be mechanisms to get rid of them. Unfortunately the whole system is so f#cked up that it takes years of blatant felonious law-breaking for anybody to be served with a deportation order. Of course then they just change their name and live with a different relative and stay forever. BTW, my neighbor Brian across the alley rides a Harley and just for the record he is NOT Armenian. I also do NOT feel that I have the right to put my 300 watt stereo up against my back fence and play it as loud as I want just because he rides a loud motorcycle at all hours of the day or night any more than I feel I've got the right to go blow his head off with a shotgun just because I don't like his bike. Dave S
From: Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com on 13 Jun 2007 19:57 Dave wrote: >See my original post. As far as the noisy middle eastern music in the house >across the street, call the cops, make a complaint. The noise bylaw exists >and should be enforced. The smell of the food and business practices of the >Armenians? Well, last I checked if they ain't breaking the law there's not >much to be done about it. Freedom does not and has never meant that you can >do whatever you want with no regard for the rights of others. Let me explain how it works in Los Angeles. Your neighbor does something that annoys you and is also illegal. You call the cops. They come out and talk to you and they talk to the neighbor. The neighbor tells the cops that you are an ignorant bigot who doesn't like other people and that you never have parties like they have and there isn't a stream of people going in and out of your house all day and all night, so you must be a weirdo of some sort. Then the cops come back and ask why you have a vendetta against the neighbor. You can't believe what you're hearing. You insist on your right to have the law enforced equally, without regard to the race, creed, nationality, color, sexual orientation, or whatever difference there is between you and the perpetrator. The cops, who live in some other town, perhaps 50 or 60 miles away, commute to work eveyday. They wouldn't live where you live if they could afford it, and they regard the residents of your community as less than human. The Los Angeles Police Department officers don't want to get involved. The cops ask you why you don't just move out if you're so unhappy. You tell them that you have lived there for 40 years and you're not going to move. You insist on the police arresting the perpetrator of whatever nuisance you're complaining about. The cops tell you that they didn't see him doing anything illegal anf he's not doing anything now and they can't arrest him. They start telling you that it's a "civil matter", between you and the other guy and that you should maybe sue him. Maybe they ask you if you want to make a citizen's arrrest. Then they ask the guy who was annoying you if *he* wants to make a citizen's arrest on *you*. After all, you've disturbed his peace by calling the police out to stop his noisy party. You shake your head in disbelief, and the officer keeps on talking and tells you that he will arrest *you* for interfering with an officer if you interrupt him one more time. If you decide it's getting ridiculous, you tell the cops to just forget it. But they have taken all your information down, and about two weeks later, you get a letter from the city attorney saying that you disturbed the other guy's peace. He gets a letter saying that he disturbed your peace. You have to meet with the city attorney, downtown, at his office. The city attorney tells both of you that he doesn't have a crystal ball, he doesn't know who started the problem, but if either one of you causes any further trouble, he will file a complaint against both of you and you'll have to go to court and defend yourself. And all this started because you expected the Los Angeles Police Department to enforce the laws. They don't do that. What they want to do is catch a robber or a murderer or rapist or kidnapper in the act. They don't want to be bothered with all that domestic violence stuff and neighborhood disputes at all, it won't get them a job as a detective. The police are not on the public's side. They are on their on side. -- Message posted via MotorcycleKB.com http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/bike/200706/1
From: Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com on 13 Jun 2007 20:25 Thumper wrote: >Someone should come up with an alternative to, power = loud pipes, on >Harleys. There is an alternative to loud pipes and you can have the power you want at the same time. It's called < drum roll > a muffler < /drum roll >. Problem with a muffler is that it requires a large volume for the noise to rattle around in. 4-cylinder liter bikes fire one cylinder at a time, they range from 15 to 21 cubic inches in volume. and the exhaust canister might be about 700 cubic inches (3 gallons) in capacity. A Harley fires two 44 to 55 cubic inch cylinders, one right after the other, so a Harley would need about 2100 cubic inches (10 gallons) of muffler to quiet it down, and mufflers that looked like jerry cans would look stupid hanging off the side of a Harley. There's no place to put a huge muffler underneath a big twin either. I have an idea though. You could run a flexible hose from the exhaust pipes back to a trailer with a huge muffler inside and you could tow the trailer around and tell people you were going camping with Turby... -- Message posted via MotorcycleKB.com http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/bike/200706/1
From: chassoto on 13 Jun 2007 21:18
On Jun 13, 4:19 pm, BrianNZ <b...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote: > > Go check out Thumper next! Not even on a double dog dare! Charles |