$12,000.00 Speeding Ticket
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From: gordon_rose on 31 Aug 2008 14:02 For what it's worth, the local paper explained that the unusually high fine was agreed to as part of a plea bargain in which the driver got to keep his bike. Cheers, Gordon
From: Calgary on 31 Aug 2008 14:59 On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:02:11 GMT, gordon_rose(a)telus.net wrote: >For what it's worth, the local paper explained that the unusually high fine >was agreed to as part of a plea bargain in which the driver got to keep his >bike. > >Cheers, >Gordon Thanks Gordon. I had heard on the radio and read in the paper a couple of references to the fine being negotiated. -- See Ya On The Road 2000 Yamaha Venture Millennium 2004 HD Road King Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
From: Andrzej Rosa on 31 Aug 2008 15:49 gordon_rose(a)telus.net wrote: > For what it's worth, the local paper explained that the unusually high > fine was agreed to as part of a plea bargain in which the driver got to > keep his bike. Around here we have a law, which forbids government from touching your property, no matter what you did. As it happens, we had second in the world constitution, which was strongly based on an American one. I'm not sure that we would follow you so closely nowadays... -- Andrzej Rosa
From: David T. Ashley on 31 Aug 2008 16:00 "Twibil" <jose.noway6(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:3a7c2bce-197a-42e0-ab10-eb1a0c2089ff(a)25g2000prz.googlegroups.com... On Aug 31, 8:00 am, "David T. Ashley" <d...(a)e3ft.com> wrote: > > I'm not seeing what is cruel or unusual about that for willful reckless > > behavior. > > >Never heard the old saw about "none is so blind as him who will not > >see", hmmm? > > Ever heard the old saw about the person who can't defend their point of > view > rationally and so posts old saws instead? > > More justification about why $12,000 is unreasonable for reckless > behavior, > less old saws. > >You don't get to define the terms of the discussion, you frothing >idiot. Besides; had anyone bothered to reply using a real >justification, you'd simply say it wasn't so. See your reply to Steve >T for an example. (I don't often agree with him on anything, but his >statement that this is an example of "government run amok" was >absolutely on the button. > >Seems there's always some bozo on Usenet -you, in this case- who's >willing to justify *anything* the State does so long as it fits his >preconceptions of "justice". Renditions. Torture. You name it. You still haven't really addressed the issue. My only point is that the behavior involved is likely to get others killed. At some point, it has to stop being a simple traffic ticket matter and either lead into outrageous civil sanctions or criminal sanctions. It isn't clear what kind of a society you want to live in ... clearly one where innocent people get killed frequently for no good reason. Aside from diagnosing me with rabies ("frothing"), you really have not addressed the issue of why you believe that very dangerous behavior shouldn't be answered with very inconvenient sanctions ... Dave.
From: David T. Ashley on 31 Aug 2008 16:05
"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:089ro5-st6.ln1(a)bakters.bandit.home... > gordon_rose(a)telus.net wrote: > >> For what it's worth, the local paper explained that the unusually high >> fine was agreed to as part of a plea bargain in which the driver got to >> keep his bike. > > Around here we have a law, which forbids government from touching your > property, no matter what you did. As it happens, we had second in the > world constitution, which was strongly based on an American one. I'm not > sure that we would follow you so closely nowadays... Around the U.S. now, there are various seizure laws ... it isn't restricted to reckless behavior with a vehicle. Examples: a)They can now seize vehicles used to solicit prostitutes. http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/apr/23/solicitations-can-cost-car/ b)They can seize houses which are used to sell drugs. The lesson is clear ... if you must do bad things with your vehicle ... keep a cheap one just for that purpose. Leave the expensive one at home ... |