From: Andrzej Rosa on 31 Aug 2008 18:08 ..p.jm(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote: > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:08:28 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>> You do not have the ability to seize property if it was acquired >>> through illegal means, such as boats or planes used for drug running? >> >>If they legally bought them? Of course not. > > Bullshit. Things ( ANY kindds of things - cars, etc ) are > ROUTINELY confiscated under drug laws. When the state court is absolutely sure that the property comes from criminal sources. A state court can order a confiscation. Not otherwise. >>Though I think some property >>can be temporarily confiscated as an evidence, but I'm not sure how >>exactly this works. > > No, obviously you're not. They can KEEP it. Permanently. > Cash, cars, boats, houses, whatever. Where? In Poland? No, they can't keep your car, even if they caught you smuggling drugs. Court can order a confiscation, but it's not a simple matter, by any means. >>> Homes used as grow ops? Or just personal property paid for with money >>> generated from illegal operations? >> >>If it's legally yours, nobody can touch it. Bike wasn't stolen, was it? > > Bullshit. You do not know the law. Which one? (Though I won't fight very hard to prove, that I'm an expert on any.) -- Andrzej Rosa
From: Andrzej Rosa on 31 Aug 2008 18:09 David T. Ashley wrote: > "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:erdro5-g28.ln1(a)bakters.bandit.home... >> >> This _is_ crazy, isn't it? Even apart from the fact that you >> criminalized >> prostitution, and not only girls but also customers. Here prostitution >> is legal, and I've seen two girls hooking alongside the road just >> yesterday. Cops just insist that they collect used condoms, to keep the >> woods kinda civil, you know. > > What country do you live in? I'd like to investigate immigrating ... : ) Poland. -- Andrzej Rosa
From: Andrzej Rosa on 31 Aug 2008 18:13 Calgary wrote: > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:08:28 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>First I am Canadian and live in Canada. >> >>I first heard about this law in American context, so I made an assumption. >>I wasn't aware that it works like that in Canada too. Sorry for you, >>guys. > > Considering your admitted ignorance of Canada and all things Canadian > your "Sorry for you guys" comes across as an immature and ill informed > sentiment. You mean that it's all right that a state can earn above ten thousand dollars on a single speeding ticket? There is nothing wrong with it? If so, I'm sorry for you. -- Andrzej Rosa
From: .p.jm on 31 Aug 2008 18:23 On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:08:27 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >.p.jm(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote: > >> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:08:28 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> You do not have the ability to seize property if it was acquired >>>> through illegal means, such as boats or planes used for drug running? >>> >>>If they legally bought them? Of course not. >> >> Bullshit. Things ( ANY kindds of things - cars, etc ) are >> ROUTINELY confiscated under drug laws. > >When the state court is absolutely sure that the property comes from >criminal sources. A state court can order a confiscation. Not otherwise. > >>>Though I think some property >>>can be temporarily confiscated as an evidence, but I'm not sure how >>>exactly this works. >> >> No, obviously you're not. They can KEEP it. Permanently. >> Cash, cars, boats, houses, whatever. > >Where? In Poland? No, they can't keep your car, even if they caught you >smuggling drugs. Court can order a confiscation, but it's not a simple >matter, by any means. Poland ? Isn't that a brand of bottled water ? :-) > >>>> Homes used as grow ops? Or just personal property paid for with money >>>> generated from illegal operations? >>> >>>If it's legally yours, nobody can touch it. Bike wasn't stolen, was it? >> >> Bullshit. You do not know the law. > >Which one? (Though I won't fight very hard to prove, that I'm an expert on >any.) In Poland, I wouldn't know. In the USA, ALL states ( and Federal ) have confiscation laws related to drug offenses. It's complete bullshit, I agree, but it's also the law. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/ Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm
From: .p.jm on 31 Aug 2008 18:24
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:09:38 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >David T. Ashley wrote: > >> "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:erdro5-g28.ln1(a)bakters.bandit.home... >>> >>> This _is_ crazy, isn't it? Even apart from the fact that you >>> criminalized >>> prostitution, and not only girls but also customers. Here prostitution >>> is legal, and I've seen two girls hooking alongside the road just >>> yesterday. Cops just insist that they collect used condoms, to keep the >>> woods kinda civil, you know. >> >> What country do you live in? I'd like to investigate immigrating ... : ) > >Poland. So much for THAT one :-) -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/ Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm |