$12,000.00 Speeding Ticket
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From: S'mee on 31 Aug 2008 20:05 On Aug 31, 4:09 pm, Andrzej Rosa <bakt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > David T. Ashley wrote: > > "Andrzej Rosa" <bakt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > >news:erdro5-g28.ln1(a)bakters.bandit.home... > > >> This _is_ crazy, isn't it? Even apart from the fact that you > >> criminalized > >> prostitution, and not only girls but also customers. Here prostitution > >> is legal, and I've seen two girls hooking alongside the road just > >> yesterday. Cops just insist that they collect used condoms, to keep the > >> woods kinda civil, you know. > > > What country do you live in? I'd like to investigate immigrating ... : ) > > Poland. And they've some well bred Caucasian Ovcharka, owczarek kaukaski, gampr, kawkasky owtscharka, nagazi, caucasian shepherd and metskhvare. 8^) I've one that is a big...180 pounds. Nicest killer you'll ever meet. The rule here (my yard) is anybody who doesn't listen when warned by Zhukov and climbs a 6 foot fence deserves what he gets. -- Keith
From: Andrzej Rosa on 31 Aug 2008 20:34 Calgary wrote: > On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:13:12 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>Calgary wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:08:28 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>First I am Canadian and live in Canada. >>>> >>>>I first heard about this law in American context, so I made an >>>>assumption. >>>>I wasn't aware that it works like that in Canada too. Sorry for you, >>>>guys. >>> >>> Considering your admitted ignorance of Canada and all things Canadian >>> your "Sorry for you guys" comes across as an immature and ill informed >>> sentiment. >> >>You mean that it's all right that a state can earn above ten thousand >>dollars on a single speeding ticket? There is nothing wrong with it? If >>so, I'm sorry for you. > > Actually my point was you are making a judgement of life in Canada > based on total ignorance of what life in Canada is like. Life in Canada? I criticized a bad law. I sand for what I said. > That speaks volumes about you. It puts you in a bad light, but volumes is not the word to describe whatever I might have learned about you. -- Andrzej Rosa
From: Andrzej Rosa on 31 Aug 2008 21:18 David T. Ashley wrote: > "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:p4kro5-op9.ln1(a)bakters.bandit.home... [...] >>> What makes a motorcycle special in a way where the rider should be >>> exempt from accountability and responsibility? I guess some people just >>> can't handle adult priveleges. >> >> The only special thing about a bike is that a biker always risks more >> than anybody else on the road, no matter if he is fast or slow. But it >> isn't much, I agree. > > Well, I think that any criminal charges should have a scientific basis ... > one should know approximately how dangerous to others going 160 mph on a > bike is. I have no idea, actually. If you hit a car you may kill someone, but you have next to none chances of surviving it yourself. So it is dangerous to others. Just not as much as to a rider. > Maybe 160 mph in a car is a better example ... > > And it depends on where one does this. On a 2-lane highway is different > than a limited-access freeway. We practically don't have highways. ;-) > But there should be a scientific basis. I honestly don't know how > dangerous to others a motorcycle is or is not. In practice, not much. Two thirds of collisions involving bikes are judged to be caused by cars, and that doesn't include all the situations where there was no collision, but there was an accident. It's fairly common for a biker to ride off the road at speed, just to avoid a collision. Riders don't tune their radios, don't eat while riding, they don't fix their makeup, and they are very aware that even a minor collision may be fatal to them. Car drivers less so, because compared to a bike, they drive a tank. All of that amounts to about 20 times higher risks per kilometer for a motorcycle. Actually, it would be much worse for a car driver if a biker switched to a car. Speed or no speed, inelastic collisions are ruled by conservation of momentum, and four times lighter object even going twice as fast has only half the momentum. BTW - riders have very small chance of harming a pedestrian too. It's just difficult to hit someone with a narrow vehicle. Loud pipes help too. -- Andrzej Rosa
From: Bob Myers on 31 Aug 2008 21:37 "Andrzej Rosa" <bakters(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:089ro5-st6.ln1(a)bakters.bandit.home... keep his bike. > > Around here we have a law, which forbids government from touching your > property, no matter what you did. As it happens, we had second in the > world constitution, which was strongly based on an American one. I'm not > sure that we would follow you so closely nowadays... Oh, we've still got a pretty good Constitution. The question is how much attention our legal system pays to it any more. Bob M.
From: Bob Myers on 31 Aug 2008 21:42
"Calgary" <actual.rider_remove_the_obvious_(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:e72mb4tcbfe5bbgi7lta3e76e44ohnf4bc(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:08:28 +0200, Andrzej Rosa <bakters(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>First I am Canadian and live in Canada. >> >>I first heard about this law in American context, so I made an assumption. >>I wasn't aware that it works like that in Canada too. Sorry for you, >>guys. > > Considering your admitted ignorance of Canada and all things Canadian > your "Sorry for you guys" comes across as an immature and ill informed > sentiment. Well, gee, send him a few tapes of The Red Green Show and a couple of Bob & Doug McKenzie albums, and we can fix that whole ignorance thing up right now...;-) Bob M. |