Do Red-Light cams show the light red as well as license plate photo?
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From: Calgary on 21 Feb 2007 20:57 On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:37:16 -0800, "brink" <brink(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >While we're on the subject, I'd like to know how the RLC differentiates >between legal movements against a red light (specifically right turns on >red) from illegal movements. Anyone? How about the direction of the car. -- 24 hours in a day & 24 beer in a case Coincidence? I think not
From: Pete M on 21 Feb 2007 21:52 "Calgary" <actualrider_remove_the_obvious_(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:tbtpt2huplrpa4o0gphi7hert0e4h7uqeb(a)4ax.com... > On 21 Feb 2007 16:40:13 -0800, "Doc" <docsavage20(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>The issue of red-light cams has come up in Florida. An article in >>today's paper doesn't seem to indicate that there's any method to >>prove that the light was actually red when the car went through the >>intersection - such as a second photo showing your vehicle in the >>intersection and the light. >> >>In states where these systems are in place, do they include any such >>evidence to verify the red light or is it simply assumed that the >>system is perfect, that the photo of your plate was taken properly and >>that of course you were in violation? > > In Calgary the camera captures a picture of the car, the plate # and > the light. The newer ones also capture the speed you are traveling. > Allegedly, tickets and fines are levied only if you enter the > intersection on the red light. > > > -- > > > 24 hours in a day > & > 24 beer in a case > > Coincidence? > > I think not Here,in Vancouver (where there is a swack of these things), it's rumored that to trigger the camera you have to be speeding and go thru the red light... Knock on wood I haven't see a photo yet, but I've seen the strobe go off when I'm waiting to make a left and someone coming the other way gives-er to make the light... P.
From: Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS on 21 Feb 2007 22:47 "Doc" <docsavage20(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:1172104813.013364.273130 @h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > The issue of red-light cams has come up in Florida. An article in > today's paper doesn't seem to indicate that there's any method to > prove that the light was actually red when the car went through the > intersection - such as a second photo showing your vehicle in the > intersection and the light. > > In states where these systems are in place, do they include any such > evidence to verify the red light or is it simply assumed that the > system is perfect, that the photo of your plate was taken properly and > that of course you were in violation? > Oh stop whining you big baby. If these RLC are so faulty, then why have i NEVER been nabbed by one?? In any city i lived in?? Just obey the law and don't run red lights and you won't have any problem.
From: Doc on 21 Feb 2007 22:53 On Feb 21, 8:05 pm, "k_fl...(a)lycos.com" <k_fl...(a)lycos.com> wrote: > Yes, they do, the ones I have seen. Do you have a link to the article > you referenced? I'd like to read it. Here: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-redlight2107feb21,0,3028129.story
From: Tim Kreitz on 21 Feb 2007 22:55
On Feb 21, 9:47 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Oh stop whining you big baby. If these RLC are so faulty, then why have i > NEVER been nabbed by one?? In any city i lived in?? Just obey the law and > don't run red lights and you won't have any problem. What an uninformed Yes Man for Big Brother you are. Here are just a few articles on the dangers and problems these types of surveillance systems create: 1. Fatalities rise in speed camera hotspots - "The UK government recently suspended the deployment of more speed cameras pending the outcome of of a University College London probe into whether they actually save lives...56,247 tickets were issued although this had little effect on safety, with an 18 per cent increase in road deaths." http://www.theregister.com/2005/07/19/gatso_deaths_link/ 2. Colorado red-light cameras increase crashes - "Automated traffic enforcement cameras are sending tickets to drivers at a record pace, but traffic accidents have gone up, not down as predicted when the system was installed. A recent report in the Colorado Avalanche revealed that a system of red light cameras in Ft. Collins issued 64 percent more citations, but the citations did nothing to reduce accidents. The Coloradoan newspaper reported an increase in accidents of 83 percent at the same intersection...'The red-light cameras just don't work as advertised. Thousands of innocent drivers are getting tickets they do not deserve,' said Scott. 'The red light cameras actually lead to an increase in rear-end accidents as drivers slam on their brakes to avoid citations.'" http://www.clickpress.com/releases/Detailed/5762005cp.shtml 3. Rollout of UK's '24x7 vehicle movement database' begins - "ACPO's tech section don't seem to have needed any kind of Parliamentary approval to begin the deployment of what promises to be one the most pervasive surveillance systems on earth." http://www.theregister.com/2005/11/15/vehicle_movement_database/ 4. Red light cameras sacrifice safety for revenue - "At locations where red-light violations persist, there are simpler and less intrusive alternatives to photo enforcement. Most red-light running can be eliminated through better engineering, including traffic light synchronization, increased yellow-light durations, deactivation of signals during low-volume periods, and proper speed limits." http://www.motorists.com/camerafiasco.html HTHYFM. Cheers, Tim Kreitz 2003 ZX7R 2000 ZX6R http://www.timkreitz.com |