From: 'Hog on
Doki wrote:
> "Andy Bonwick" <nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
> news:1bvph5h3ri4ef04cvicffjs3h52ma84piv(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:14:33 -0000, "Doki" <mrdoki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:hfheam$nqr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Stephen Cowell <stephenleeNOSPAMcowell(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "In the 1990s, the United Kingdom Atomic Energy
>>>>> Authority started to implement plans to
>>>>> decommission, disassemble and clean up both
>>>>> piles; the decommissioning is now partially
>>>>> complete. However, Pile 1 still contains about 15
>>>>> tonnes (14.76 L/T) of highly unstable uranium
>>>>> fuel, and final completion of the decommissioning
>>>>> is not expected until at least 2037."
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of sight, out of mind, eh?
>>>>
>>>> It keeps people in jobs for life FFS and I'm all for that
>>>
>>> Broken window fallacy. Their jobs for life cost us all.
>>
>> Would you sooner it was just left where it is?
>>
>> I don't really understand your bit about the jobs for life costing us
>> all unless you mean the tax payer is standing the bill. Windscale was
>> built to give us (the UK) nuclear weapons so who else is going to pay
>> fot it?
>
> Of course such things have to be cleaned up. However, the idea that
> there's a silver lining in the form of job creation is entirely
> incorrect. The money we spend employing these people has to come from
> somewhere (ie, the tax payer or BNFL), so there is no overall benefit
> to society.

The public purse employs a significant proportion of the working
population on self serving duties and this is no different.

--
'Hog
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From: Andy Bonwick on
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:10:15 -0000, "Doki" <mrdoki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Andy Bonwick" <nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
>news:1bvph5h3ri4ef04cvicffjs3h52ma84piv(a)4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:14:33 -0000, "Doki" <mrdoki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:hfheam$nqr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Stephen Cowell <stephenleeNOSPAMcowell(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "In the 1990s, the United Kingdom Atomic Energy
>>>>> Authority started to implement plans to
>>>>> decommission, disassemble and clean up both
>>>>> piles; the decommissioning is now partially
>>>>> complete. However, Pile 1 still contains about 15
>>>>> tonnes (14.76 L/T) of highly unstable uranium
>>>>> fuel, and final completion of the decommissioning
>>>>> is not expected until at least 2037."
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of sight, out of mind, eh?
>>>>
>>>> It keeps people in jobs for life FFS and I'm all for that
>>>
>>>Broken window fallacy. Their jobs for life cost us all.
>>
>> Would you sooner it was just left where it is?
>>
>> I don't really understand your bit about the jobs for life costing us
>> all unless you mean the tax payer is standing the bill. Windscale was
>> built to give us (the UK) nuclear weapons so who else is going to pay
>> fot it?
>
>Of course such things have to be cleaned up. However, the idea that there's
>a silver lining in the form of job creation is entirely incorrect. The money
>we spend employing these people has to come from somewhere (ie, the tax
>payer or BNFL), so there is no overall benefit to society.

So the electricity produced at nuclear power stations has been of no
benefit to society?
From: doetnietcomputeren on
On 2009-12-07 17:32:22 +0100, Andy Bonwick <nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> said:

> Millions have been employed in the nuclear industry (civil and
> military) and without it we wouldn't all be able to turn our lights on
> whenever we want (1)

A bit like how you can use footnotes whenever you want. Or not.
--
Dnc

From: Andy Bonwick on
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:32:22 +0000, Andy Bonwick
<nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

snip>

The footnote thief removed this:

(1) I can certainly remember the days of scheduled power cuts and no
tv after 10pm. Without nuclear power we'd have had them for at least
one period since then.

From: Andy Bonwick on
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:35:52 +0100, doetnietcomputeren
<doesnotcompute(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2009-12-07 17:32:22 +0100, Andy Bonwick <nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> said:
>
>> Millions have been employed in the nuclear industry (civil and
>> military) and without it we wouldn't all be able to turn our lights on
>> whenever we want (1)
>
>A bit like how you can use footnotes whenever you want. Or not.

I've got an excuse, I'm recovering from another bout of knock out
drops this morning and only got in from the hospital an hour ago.

Yes, I was posting from the luxury of my private hospital bed earlier.