From: Bob Mann on
"Vito" <vito(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in news:4af9e5ce$0$4891
$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8239410.stm
>
> If there are no other clubs to fight they kill their own bros.
>
>

These guys weren't bros.
The Toronto chapter was keeping the Winnipeg chapter down and at the same
time running afoul of HQ in Texas.
The Winnipeg chapter was supposed to go to Toronto and strip the Toronto
members of their memberships but on the way orders changed to an execution.
They were clumsy and careless.
And, according to some who knew some of them, none to bright to begin with.

The chances of them ever getting the club off the ground in Winnipeg was
very slim although they also had the backing of the former Rock Machine in
Quebec as this is heavily Angel territory.
The HA have a couple of puppet clubs and associate clubs here and the
weight of numbers.
Add to that the tensions with other African and Asian gangs and I predict
they would have been dead within a couple of years (literally).

--
Bob Mann

Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: J. Clarke on
Bob Mann wrote:
> "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in
> news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com:
>
>> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth
>> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have
>> been cooling.
>>
>
> We have.
> The Earth hasn't.

Funny how the same people who were shouting "the sky is falling because of
global warming" are now shouting "the sky is falling becuase of global
climate change".

From: Rob Kleinschmidt on
On Nov 11, 7:43 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> Bob Mann wrote:
> > "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in
> >news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com:
>
> >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth
> >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have
> >> been cooling.
>
> > We have.
> > The Earth hasn't.
>
> Funny how the same people who were shouting "the sky is falling because of
> global warming" are now shouting "the sky is falling becuase of global
> climate change".

One prediction that's testable is a navigable northwest
passage and a major reduction in arctic pack ice. We
could then argue about whether it's anthropogenic but
a disappearance might reasonably be called climate
change.
From: TOG on
On 11 Nov, 16:45, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 7:43 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Bob Mann wrote:
> > > "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in
> > >news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com:
>
> > >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth
> > >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have
> > >> been cooling.
>
> > > We have.
> > > The Earth hasn't.
>
> > Funny how the same people who were shouting "the sky is falling because of
> > global warming" are now shouting "the sky is falling becuase of global
> > climate change".
>
> One prediction that's testable is a navigable northwest
> passage and a major reduction in arctic pack ice. We
> could then argue about whether it's anthropogenic but
> a disappearance might reasonably be called climate
> change.

The climate's changing, no doubt about it. It's having a massive
effect already in the field in which I work.

What's yet to be determined for sure is whether mankind is
responsible. The climate has changed massively, many times in pre-
history, before humans emerged as a species. And the dinosaurs weren't
driving around in cars.[1]

[1] Except in The Flintstones, natch
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on
On Nov 11, 9:53 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 11 Nov, 16:45, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote:

>
> > One prediction that's testable is a navigable northwest
> > passage and a major reduction in arctic pack ice. We
> > could then argue about whether it's anthropogenic but
> > a disappearance might reasonably be called climate
> > change.
>
> The climate's changing, no doubt about it. It's having a massive
> effect already in the field in which I work.
>
> What's yet to be determined for sure is whether mankind is
> responsible.

Given climate change (for the sake of argument), the good
news would be that it's for the better and/or we're responsible.

The bad news would be that it was for the worse and we weren't.

> The climate has changed massively, many times in pre-
> history, before humans emerged as a species. And the dinosaurs weren't
> driving around in cars.[1]

See above.

> [1] Except in The Flintstones, natch

Dino rode in the back seat.

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