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From: Bob Mann on 11 Nov 2009 10:32 "Vito" <vito(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in news:4af9e5ce$0$4891 $9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8239410.stm > > If there are no other clubs to fight they kill their own bros. > > These guys weren't bros. The Toronto chapter was keeping the Winnipeg chapter down and at the same time running afoul of HQ in Texas. The Winnipeg chapter was supposed to go to Toronto and strip the Toronto members of their memberships but on the way orders changed to an execution. They were clumsy and careless. And, according to some who knew some of them, none to bright to begin with. The chances of them ever getting the club off the ground in Winnipeg was very slim although they also had the backing of the former Rock Machine in Quebec as this is heavily Angel territory. The HA have a couple of puppet clubs and associate clubs here and the weight of numbers. Add to that the tensions with other African and Asian gangs and I predict they would have been dead within a couple of years (literally). -- Bob Mann Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: J. Clarke on 11 Nov 2009 10:43 Bob Mann wrote: > "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in > news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: > >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have >> been cooling. >> > > We have. > The Earth hasn't. Funny how the same people who were shouting "the sky is falling because of global warming" are now shouting "the sky is falling becuase of global climate change".
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 11 Nov 2009 11:45 On Nov 11, 7:43 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > Bob Mann wrote: > > "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in > >news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: > > >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth > >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have > >> been cooling. > > > We have. > > The Earth hasn't. > > Funny how the same people who were shouting "the sky is falling because of > global warming" are now shouting "the sky is falling becuase of global > climate change". One prediction that's testable is a navigable northwest passage and a major reduction in arctic pack ice. We could then argue about whether it's anthropogenic but a disappearance might reasonably be called climate change.
From: TOG on 11 Nov 2009 12:53 On 11 Nov, 16:45, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Nov 11, 7:43 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > Bob Mann wrote: > > > "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in > > >news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: > > > >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth > > >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have > > >> been cooling. > > > > We have. > > > The Earth hasn't. > > > Funny how the same people who were shouting "the sky is falling because of > > global warming" are now shouting "the sky is falling becuase of global > > climate change". > > One prediction that's testable is a navigable northwest > passage and a major reduction in arctic pack ice. We > could then argue about whether it's anthropogenic but > a disappearance might reasonably be called climate > change. The climate's changing, no doubt about it. It's having a massive effect already in the field in which I work. What's yet to be determined for sure is whether mankind is responsible. The climate has changed massively, many times in pre- history, before humans emerged as a species. And the dinosaurs weren't driving around in cars.[1] [1] Except in The Flintstones, natch
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 11 Nov 2009 13:17
On Nov 11, 9:53 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 11 Nov, 16:45, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > One prediction that's testable is a navigable northwest > > passage and a major reduction in arctic pack ice. We > > could then argue about whether it's anthropogenic but > > a disappearance might reasonably be called climate > > change. > > The climate's changing, no doubt about it. It's having a massive > effect already in the field in which I work. > > What's yet to be determined for sure is whether mankind is > responsible. Given climate change (for the sake of argument), the good news would be that it's for the better and/or we're responsible. The bad news would be that it was for the worse and we weren't. > The climate has changed massively, many times in pre- > history, before humans emerged as a species. And the dinosaurs weren't > driving around in cars.[1] See above. > [1] Except in The Flintstones, natch Dino rode in the back seat. |