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From: Bob Mann on 11 Nov 2009 22:30 "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in news:jfbmf5h8suro3rn782o2qrhn2nno6sst45(a)4ax.com: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:17 GMT, Bob Mann <bobmann(a)mtsremove.net> > wrote: > >>"don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in >>news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: >> >>> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth >>> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have >>> been cooling. >>> >> >>We have. >>The Earth hasn't. > > In fact the average temperature of the world has been cooling over the > past decade contrary to all of the previous predictions. > Polar ice is still receding. -- Bob Mann Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: S'mee on 11 Nov 2009 22:55 On Nov 11, 12:11 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > S'mee <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > On Nov 11, 12:22 am, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older > > Gentleman) wrote: > > > don (Calgary) <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > know it is dumb, stupid and doesn't make any sense, but it is Canada > > > > and when it comes to criminal law, little of it does make sense. > > > > <snip> > > > > Discovered this myself when busting the Nigerian scam gangs in Canada a > > > while back. > > > > Toronto, and to a lesser extent Montreal, are infested with the > > > bastards. Up there with London, Amsterdam and the southern coast of > > > Spain. Half of them seem to be passing themselves off as students. > > > > The authorities simply don't care. You could report 'em, hand over a > > > massive amount of data, email addies, bank details, the lot, and they'd > > > ignore it. > > > > The Dutch and the Brits take a slightly more robust view. > > > "Gave them a stern talking to and critiqued their grammar" > > > about sums it up. > > Heh. No, not quite. If you want the gory details, my email addie is in > my sig. I'll take your word for it. Though that's about all the US has done as far as I know. Apparently the big issue is that it's not safe for the FBI to cruise Nigerian internet cafes and the like. But I could be very, very wrong.
From: S'mee on 11 Nov 2009 22:58 On Nov 11, 10:53 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 11 Nov, 16:45, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 7:43 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > Bob Mann wrote: > > > > "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in > > > >news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: > > > > >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth > > > >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have > > > >> been cooling. > > > > > We have. > > > > The Earth hasn't. > > > > Funny how the same people who were shouting "the sky is falling because of > > > global warming" are now shouting "the sky is falling becuase of global > > > climate change". > > > One prediction that's testable is a navigable northwest > > passage and a major reduction in arctic pack ice. We > > could then argue about whether it's anthropogenic but > > a disappearance might reasonably be called climate > > change. > > The climate's changing, no doubt about it. It's having a massive > effect already in the field in which I work. > > What's yet to be determined for sure is whether mankind is > responsible. The climate has changed massively, many times in pre- > history, before humans emerged as a species. And the dinosaurs weren't > driving around in cars.[1] > > [1] Except in The Flintstones, natch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Prove it! Maybe they had a technology based on biological instead of elements such as we do. Thus you could argue that their technology of "growing" what they need was superior and far more adaptable. 8^)
From: S'mee on 11 Nov 2009 23:00 On Nov 11, 2:36 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:17 GMT, Bob Mann <bobm...(a)mtsremove.net> > wrote: > > >"don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in > >news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: > > >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth > >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have > >> been cooling. > > >We have. > >The Earth hasn't. > > In fact the average temperature of the world has been cooling over the > past decade contrary to all of the previous predictions. Oh sure, brings facts into a perfectly good argument! I just got the popcorn and a Mountain Dew(throwback) and was getting ready for the show...spoilsport.
From: J. Clarke on 11 Nov 2009 22:32
..p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:25:50 -0800 (PST), "Road Glidin' Don" > <d.langkd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 11, 3:18 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older >> Gentleman) wrote: >>> don (Calgary) <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:17 GMT, Bob Mann <bobm...(a)mtsremove.net> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in >>>>> news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: >>> >>>>>> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient >>>>>> truth is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past >>>>>> decade we have been cooling. >>> >>>>> We have. >>>>> The Earth hasn't. >>> >>>> In fact the average temperature of the world has been cooling over >>>> the past decade contrary to all of the previous predictions. >>> >>> There appears to be evidence for this, but the timespan of a decade >>> is a bit too short for anyone to draw any reliable conclusions. >>> >>> I' prefer to look at the polar ice caps for a longer-term trend >>> picture. >> >> Yet even that can be attributable to changes in sea currents. >> > > And if you go back far enough ,the 'polar ice caps' extended > to somewhere south of Virginia. They've beeen 'melting' ever since, > for millions of years. No, not for millions. The glaciation cycle is about 120,000 years. The southernmost extent of the Wisconsonian glaciers was a little south of where Indianapolis is now, 18,000 years ago. In previous glaciation cycles they had been a bit farther south. > 30 - 40 years ago, 'the scientific community' was screaming > about the impending ICE AGE. > > 'Scientists' complain about 'species loss', and yet they admit > they have only identified perhaps 2 - 3 % of the existing species on > the planet. > > Environmentalists are fond of showing pictures of 'cute cuddly > polar bears' floating on icebergs, without mentioning that that is in > fact there natural environment, where they eat anything that moves and > is smaller than they are. BTW, estimates are that there are MORE > polar bears in the wild now than there were 20 + years ago. > > 'Evironmentalists' like to say 'the science is proven beyond > doubt, there can be no debate', and yet they can not explain why none > of their models work. And they forget little things like 'the record > of CO2 levels suggest that increases FOLLOWED warming trends, and > therefor COULD NOT BE CAUSITIVE. Oops. |