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From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 11 Nov 2009 23:15 On Nov 11, 4:32 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > Rob Kleinschmidt wrote: > > On Nov 11, 3:25 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> We may be just seeing an unusual transition, or we may be seeing the > >> end of the ice ages and a return to the _normal_ state of the planet > >> in which it has no polar caps and palm trees are indigenous to > >> Antarctica. Before you say "plate tectonics" be aware that at the > >> time at which the palm trees were present Antarctica was in its > >> current position and the continents were in their familiar positions > >> or close to it--continental drift takes place over a much longer > >> time frame. > > closing > > of the Paname isthmus ~10m years ago. Were you speaking of > > something more or less recent than that ? > > I thought it was fairly well known that palm trees were indigenous to > Antarctica within the past 25 million years or so. OK, and the isthmus of Panama closed only a few million years ago, causing drastic changes in oceanic currents. Keep in mind that right now, the Gulf Stream lets you grow palm trees in Ireland at approximately the same latitude as Labrador.
From: don (Calgary) on 11 Nov 2009 23:26 On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:30:47 GMT, Bob Mann <bobmann(a)mtsremove.net> wrote: >"don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in >news:jfbmf5h8suro3rn782o2qrhn2nno6sst45(a)4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:17 GMT, Bob Mann <bobmann(a)mtsremove.net> >> wrote: >> >>>"don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in >>>news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: >>> >>>> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth >>>> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have >>>> been cooling. >>>> >>> >>>We have. >>>The Earth hasn't. >> >> In fact the average temperature of the world has been cooling over the >> past decade contrary to all of the previous predictions. >> > >Polar ice is still receding. So is my hair line! <g> As I noted for someone else, there are more variables than just the average temperature of the world impacting the polar ice.
From: don (Calgary) on 11 Nov 2009 23:28 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:00:18 -0800 (PST), "S'mee" <stevenkeith2(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 11, 2:36�pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:17 GMT, Bob Mann <bobm...(a)mtsremove.net> >> wrote: >> >> >"don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote in >> >news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: >> >> >> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient truth >> >> is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade we have >> >> been cooling. >> >> >We have. >> >The Earth hasn't. >> >> In fact the average temperature of the world has been cooling over the >> past decade contrary to all of the previous predictions. > >Oh sure, brings facts into a perfectly good argument! I just got the >popcorn and a Mountain Dew(throwback) and was getting ready for the >show...spoilsport. Ah don't worry Keith, I have a feeling the bullshit is yet to come. Hang on to that popcorn, in fact save some for me.
From: J. Clarke on 11 Nov 2009 23:11 Bob Mann wrote: > "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in > news:jfbmf5h8suro3rn782o2qrhn2nno6sst45(a)4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:26:17 GMT, Bob Mann <bobmann(a)mtsremove.net> >> wrote: >> >>> "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in >>> news:f4hlf51mhoojt728gsgbfl09q18aapvrrn(a)4ax.com: >>> >>>> Not that I care to go down this road again but the inconvenient >>>> truth is global warming has stopped. In fact over the past decade >>>> we have been cooling. >>>> >>> >>> We have. >>> The Earth hasn't. >> >> In fact the average temperature of the world has been cooling over >> the past decade contrary to all of the previous predictions. >> > > Polar ice is still receding. Which doesn't mean that it's not cooling.
From: J. Clarke on 12 Nov 2009 00:16
Rob Kleinschmidt wrote: > On Nov 11, 4:32 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >> Rob Kleinschmidt wrote: >>> On Nov 11, 3:25 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > >>>> We may be just seeing an unusual transition, or we may be seeing >>>> the end of the ice ages and a return to the _normal_ state of the >>>> planet in which it has no polar caps and palm trees are indigenous >>>> to Antarctica. Before you say "plate tectonics" be aware that at >>>> the time at which the palm trees were present Antarctica was in its >>>> current position and the continents were in their familiar >>>> positions or close to it--continental drift takes place over a >>>> much longer time frame. > >>> closing >>> of the Paname isthmus ~10m years ago. Were you speaking of >>> something more or less recent than that ? >> >> I thought it was fairly well known that palm trees were indigenous to >> Antarctica within the past 25 million years or so. > > OK, and the isthmus of Panama closed only a few million > years ago, causing drastic changes in oceanic currents. > > Keep in mind that right now, the Gulf Stream lets you > grow palm trees in Ireland at approximately the same > latitude as Labrador. And the California Current lets you grow them in Vancouver. Not sure what the relevance is. |