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From: 'Hog on 21 Dec 2009 11:20 doetnietcomputeren wrote: > On 2009-12-21 16:51:39 +0100, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> said: >>> >>> This being a NG and UKRM I may flower up the language but my obvious >>> underlying point is capital punishment applied to a 3 Strikes Then >>> You Are Out policy which has always seemed reasonable to me. That's >>> 3 *serious* (1) detected property/against a person crimes for >>> which conventional penalties are imposed and on the 4th offence >>> it's a bullet. You might even couch that inside a time frame if you >>> choose, for liberal effect, say 20 years. >> >> you appear to be genuinely proposing capital punishment for 3 crimes >> against property. >> >> You're either a troll or deeply unpleasant. > > I think you missed an option there. People not agreement with you are Trolls? ha ha ha -- 'Hog
From: 'Hog on 21 Dec 2009 11:24 doetnietcomputeren wrote: > On 2009-12-21 17:11:26 +0100, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> > said: >>>>> So, do you *genuinely* believe that public executions are the way >>>>> you would deal with the issue of low level youth crime? >>>> >>>> This being a NG and UKRM I may flower up the language but my >>>> obvious underlying point is capital punishment applied to a 3 >>>> Strikes Then You Are Out policy which has always seemed reasonable >>>> to me. That's 3 *serious* (1) detected property/against a person >>>> crimes for which conventional penalties are imposed and on the >>>> 4th offence it's a bullet. You might even couch that inside a time >>>> frame if you choose, for liberal effect, say 20 years. >>> >>> you appear to be genuinely proposing capital punishment for 3 crimes >>> against property. >>> >>> You're either a troll or deeply unpleasant. >> >> I'm suggesting liquidating those who systematically disrupt and try >> to destroy the lives of those around them. Over and over. Resisting >> all efforts to educate them. > > And what makes you think that Capital or Corporal punishment would > change anything? > > (Hint, it doesn't in many other countries). Those opposed to it always say that. I suggest: # those executed never go on to bother another victim # victims/relatives often appreciate the execution # it should be cheaper than banging folk up for life and I propose that it may not deter all but it certainly deters some -- 'Hog
From: doetnietcomputeren on 21 Dec 2009 12:12 On 2009-12-21 17:24:51 +0100, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> said: >>>> you appear to be genuinely proposing capital punishment for 3 crimes >>>> against property. >>>> >>>> You're either a troll or deeply unpleasant. >>> >>> I'm suggesting liquidating those who systematically disrupt and try >>> to destroy the lives of those around them. Over and over. Resisting >>> all efforts to educate them. >> >> And what makes you think that Capital or Corporal punishment would >> change anything? >> >> (Hint, it doesn't in many other countries). > > Those opposed to it always say that. I'm not opposed to it, the fact is quite simple - countries where the police are armed do not have significantly less crime and not do those with capital punishment. Having been acquainted with a young chap, who is currently facing death row, > > I suggest: > > # those executed never go on to bother another victim This is true. > # victims/relatives often appreciate the execution "often"? You've spoken to many victims/relatives who have appreciated the perpetrator being executed, have you? > # it should be cheaper than banging folk up for life Hmm. > and I propose that it may not deter all but it certainly deters some -- Dnc
From: ginge on 21 Dec 2009 12:19 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:11:26 -0000, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >> you appear to be genuinely proposing capital punishment for 3 crimes >> against property. >> >> You're either a troll or deeply unpleasant. > >I'm suggesting liquidating those who systematically disrupt and try to >destroy the lives of those around them. Over and over. Resisting all efforts >to educate them. Why not move to a country with Sharia law.
From: doetnietcomputeren on 21 Dec 2009 12:18
On 2009-12-21 18:12:11 +0100, doetnietcomputeren <doesnotcompute(a)gmail.com> said: Bad form, but I hit the wrong set of keys. >>> >>> And what makes you think that Capital or Corporal punishment would >>> change anything? >>> >>> (Hint, it doesn't in many other countries). >> >> Those opposed to it always say that. > > I'm not opposed to it, the fact is quite simple - countries where the > police are armed do not have significantly less crime and not do those > with capital punishment. > > Having been acquainted with a young chap, who is currently facing death row, .... for murder (a business man), second degree robbery (of the business man) and two counts of attempted murder (the policemen he shot at while escaping), at the ripe old age of 21 (or maybe just about 22) - in California where; the cops have and use their guns, the maximum state prison is somewhat infamous and the death penalty is an available punishment - I wonder why you think that only people who are opposed to capital punishment point out that it's not a deterrent. It's not a deterrent. -- Dnc |