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From: ogden on 22 Dec 2009 06:27 boots wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:22:06 -0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, 'Hog says: > > [Armed Police] > >Has anyone suggested taking the peashooters off Continental EU Plod? > > A French colleague told me that more French police committed suicide > with their personal weapon than were killed by criminals or killed a > criminal as part off their duty. If true, then an amazing argument > for arming Plod. Post corrected. -- ogden
From: Veggie Dave on 22 Dec 2009 06:29 boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >A French colleague told me that more French police committed suicide >with their personal weapon than were killed by criminals or killed a >criminal as part off their duty. If true, then not an amazing argument >for arming Plod. The same is true in the US, too. Coppers accidentally shooting themselves is rather more common than 'bad guys' shooting them as well. -- Veggie Dave http://www.iq18films.co.uk "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
From: Wicked Uncle Nigel on 22 Dec 2009 06:43 Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 'Hog <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> typed > >Well I gotta say the thought of the old 'Merkin gas chamber is so horrific >it would deter me! Surely any possible sentence is only a deterrent if the criminal actually believes they're going to get caught? Even that, I suppose, requires some element of forethought. I remember catching a scene from one of the interminable "Police" shows a few months back. Plod were in the booking-in room, counting one suspect's allegedly ill-gotten gains, as another suspect was led past. Suspect two lunged forward and grabbed the money. In a custody suite, (literally) surrounded by coppers. Of course, he hit the ground under a big pile of Plod within a second. What was he thinking? Well, pretty clearly, he wasn't. -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" can you see the light of need shinin' in my eye?
From: des popping in on 22 Dec 2009 07:05 On 2009-12-21, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:22:06 -0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, 'Hog says: > > [Armed Police] >>Has anyone suggested taking the peashooters off Continental EU Plod? > > A French colleague told me that more French police committed suicide with > their personal weapon than were killed by criminals or killed a criminal > as part off their duty. If true, then not an amazing argument for arming > Plod. > It's true, but the true figure is probably even higher than indicated (47 in 2007, 43 in 2008 and 31 up to the beginning of November 2009). A lot of 'accidental discharge' figures are probably suicides. Or 'cleaning gun' accidents.....
From: 'Hog on 22 Dec 2009 07:15
Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote: > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, 'Hog > <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> typed >> >> Well I gotta say the thought of the old 'Merkin gas chamber is so >> horrific it would deter me! > > Surely any possible sentence is only a deterrent if the criminal > actually believes they're going to get caught? > > Even that, I suppose, requires some element of forethought. I remember > catching a scene from one of the interminable "Police" shows a few > months back. Plod were in the booking-in room, counting one suspect's > allegedly ill-gotten gains, as another suspect was led past. > > Suspect two lunged forward and grabbed the money. In a custody suite, > (literally) surrounded by coppers. Of course, he hit the ground under > a big pile of Plod within a second. > > What was he thinking? Well, pretty clearly, he wasn't. Quite a lot of murder and serious crime is premeditated or not exactly instantaneous though don't you think? And we musn't forget Revenge and Retribution. Important elements. If someone had topped a close friend or family member I'm sure watching them die in the gas chamber would assist the grieving process. In just the same way that taking someone away and battering them to the edge of life, for crossing you grievously, is a tremendous stress reliever. -- 'Hog |