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From: Bob Myers on 16 Jul 2010 16:04 The Older Gentleman wrote: > Bob Myers <nospamplease(a)address.invalid> wrote: > >> In short, there's >> nothing new or special here just because it's Harley (or Ducati >> or BMW or whoever). So...what's the interest here? > > Lots of people here own 'em. Or more than one. Yabbut - I was referring to the interest in discussing H-D financial condition, health as a company., etc.. This isn't rec.daytrader, f'rinstance. Bob M.
From: Bob Myers on 16 Jul 2010 16:05 The Older Gentleman wrote: > Bob Myers <nospamplease(a)address.invalid> wrote: > >> TOG(a)Toil wrote: >> >> >>> And it's the Japanese that puzzle me more about not making other >>> styles of bikes. >> >> Given that the Japanese (assuming you're talking about the >> Big Four) all have pretty broad product lines, esp. in >> comparison with other manufacturers who are much more >> specialized (H-D, Victory, Ducati, etc.) - how so? >> > Well, if you go back a few postings, and ignore Calgary getting it > wrong with every reply, it's just one engine configuration: the flat > twin. Sorry, but I just don't see "flat twin" as a style of bike. Bob M.
From: Bob Myers on 16 Jul 2010 16:09 don (Calgary) wrote: >> Those who forget that - at least, those >> who are actually charged with running a company, and who >> forget that - and start thinking it's about "mindshare" or >> "image" or some such as ends in themselves are pretty much >> always doomed to be the ones leading their companies into >> oblivion. >> > In am not in total agreement with you there. Dollars and cents need to > be balanced with corporate ethics, corporate values and a positive > human resource program. Well, I agree, and admittedly was painting with some pretty broad strokes above. But it could also be argued that corporate ethics, positive HR, etc., are also what they are BECAUSE they contribute to the company's long-term overall health. A lot of companies forget that, and IMHO will eventually suffer the consequences. You can only get so far doing nothing but squeezing your nickels... Bob M.
From: don (Calgary) on 16 Jul 2010 16:14 On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:09:19 -0600, "Bob Myers" <nospamplease(a)address.invalid> wrote: >don (Calgary) wrote: >>> Those who forget that - at least, those >>> who are actually charged with running a company, and who >>> forget that - and start thinking it's about "mindshare" or >>> "image" or some such as ends in themselves are pretty much >>> always doomed to be the ones leading their companies into >>> oblivion. >>> >> In am not in total agreement with you there. Dollars and cents need to >> be balanced with corporate ethics, corporate values and a positive >> human resource program. > >Well, I agree, and admittedly was painting with some >pretty broad strokes above. I appreciate that. It might have been better if I framed my comments as expanding on yours. >But it could also be argued >that corporate ethics, positive HR, etc., are also what they >are BECAUSE they contribute to the company's long-term >overall health. A lot of companies forget that, and IMHO >will eventually suffer the consequences. You can only >get so far doing nothing but squeezing your nickels... > It may work for some, discounters, liquidators and a few mass merchandisers but for most eventually you have to provide service and support which means taking the next step in corporate responsibility.
From: S'mee on 16 Jul 2010 16:53
On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, "Bob Myers" <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote: > The Older Gentleman wrote: > > Bob Myers <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote: > > >> TOG(a)Toil wrote: > > >>> And it's the Japanese that puzzle me more about not making other > >>> styles of bikes. > > >> Given that the Japanese (assuming you're talking about the > >> Big Four) all have pretty broad product lines, esp. in > >> comparison with other manufacturers who are much more > >> specialized (H-D, Victory, Ducati, etc.) - how so? > > > Well, if you go back a few postings, and ignore Calgary getting it > > wrong with every reply, it's just one engine configuration: the flat > > twin. > > Sorry, but I just don't see "flat twin" as a style of bike. <shrug> doesn't make it any less of a style either. To take that thought all the way V-Twins are not a style nor are I4's, Singles, Paralell twins, rotary radial or v8 motors in motorcycles a style. NONE of them are an engine style by that metric. |